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Husty

Mooderator
Oct 18, 2008
11,998
Even if he wasn't guilty of chanting (although come on, he probably was wasn't he) - he is certainly guilty of not standing up for the black bloke and helping him on to the carriage.

And then what, get his head kicked in as well? Jesus wept mate get a grip. It could so easily have been you or anyone stood in that carriage adjacent to a few idiots, I certainly have been following Brighton throughout the years. Adjacency isn't a crime.
 




Uncle Spielberg

Well-known member
Jul 6, 2003
43,073
Lancing
Even if he wasn't guilty of chanting (although come on, he probably was wasn't he) - he is certainly guilty of not standing up for the black bloke and helping him on to the carriage.

Are you being serious or is it a wind up ?
 


Husty

Mooderator
Oct 18, 2008
11,998
I find it shocking that there are so many people on this thread who WOULDN'T have stood up for the black guy.

I can say with absolute certainty that if I was there, I would have.

Be that as it may, the kid still hasn't done anything wrong (that we have any clear evidence of), so stop your petty little which hunt and subsequent political point scoring.
 


Albumen

Don't wait for me!
Jan 19, 2010
11,495
Brighton - In your face
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...oy-in-chelsea-fans-racism-storm-10056043.html

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Unless he was caught singing you can't pin it on him. If they're his friends though it's probably time to find less moronic imbecilesto hang around with before he is caught. Then again it looks like he votes UKIP so he's probably a wrongun.
 


sydney

tinky ****in winky
Jul 11, 2003
17,965
town full of eejits
Unless he was caught singing you can't pin it on him. If they're his friends though it's probably time to find less moronic imbecilesto hang around with before he is caught. Then again it looks like he votes UKIP so he's probably a wrongun.

hmmm........i bet him and his mates are not being so loud today...???
 




Uncle Spielberg

Well-known member
Jul 6, 2003
43,073
Lancing
I find it shocking that there are so many people on this thread who WOULDN'T have stood up for the black guy.

I can say with absolute certainty that if I was there, I would have - especially if it was my mates/fellow supporters who were doing it.

I think it is abhorrent as most people do but it is a different ball game singling yourself out to 30 knuckledraggers he was propably part of a group of. In the real World he was not going to stand up for him was he ? Would I, who knows, would you ? who knows, easy to say behind a keyboard
 


Creaky

Well-known member
Mar 26, 2013
3,858
Hookwood - Nr Horley
I think it is abhorrent as most people do but it is a different ball game singling yourself out to 30 knuckledraggers he was propably part of a group of. In the real World he was not going to stand up for him was he ? Would I, who knows, would you ? who knows, easy to say behind a keyboard

It depends a lot on how much time you have to think - well certainly in my case. A few years back my wife and I were on a crowded Metro, pushed up against the door, when a gang of four or five guys 'steamed' through the carriage grabbing peoples bags and wallets. One guy pushed the elderly man next to me and grabbed his wallet - without thinking I just grabbed his arm and a few seconds later we pulled into a station - he let go of the wallet and I let go of him and that was the end of that.

It was only because it all happened right next to me that I intervened instinctively - otherwise I wouldn't have got involved - looking back on what happened I probably was foolish to act the way I did!

I like to think if I had been standing by the door of that train when the black gent tried to board that again, instinctively, I would have intervened.
 


Uncle Spielberg

Well-known member
Jul 6, 2003
43,073
Lancing
It depends a lot on how much time you have to think - well certainly in my case. A few years back my wife and I were on a crowded Metro, pushed up against the door, when a gang of four or five guys 'steamed' through the carriage grabbing peoples bags and wallets. One guy pushed the elderly man next to me and grabbed his wallet - without thinking I just grabbed his arm and a few seconds later we pulled into a station - he let go of the wallet and I let go of him and that was the end of that.

It was only because it all happened right next to me that I intervened instinctively - otherwise I wouldn't have got involved - looking back on what happened I probably was foolish to act the way I did!

I like to think if I had been standing by the door of that train when the black gent tried to board that again, instinctively, I would have intervened.

I think they are completely different circumstances to be fair
 




Diablo

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Sep 22, 2014
4,360
lewes
I like to think if I had been standing by the door of that train when the black gent tried to board that again, instinctively, I would have intervened.[/QUOTE]


Good intention I`m sure but Intervention may well have escalated what was a pretty non event into something ugly.....No one harmed.... In this instance surely discretion best option...
 


Sep 30, 2006
548
Up in the Gods
No one got injured, as I said the chap could have got on at another carriage
regards
DR

Right, so because there was no physical violence (though being pushed off a train is completely unacceptable) then nothing was wrong with what these CJTCs did?

You are a pathetic excuse for a human being for harbouring these views. Does it not cross your mind that mentally & emotionally such treatment can damage a person? Do you not consider that letting this behaviour go unpunished will only embolden these low lives?

People have the right to live their lives unhindered by others, just so long as they behave lawfully & reasonably. What gives these Neanderthals the right to treat a stranger this way? I'll tell you shall I...absolutely nothing.

Whatever excuses they or you come up with are completely unacceptable for singling out another person for discriminatory behaviour purely due to their appearance, gender, sexual orientation or disability. Those that do discriminate need to brought to book EVERY TIME it happens.
 


Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
62,381
The Fatherland
The way those supporters were acting, not to mention the way they look, I'm glad football is becoming sanitised.
 




mikeyjh

Well-known member
Dec 17, 2008
4,604
Llanymawddwy
I find it shocking that there are so many people on this thread who WOULDN'T have stood up for the black guy.

I can say with absolute certainty that if I was there, I would have - especially if it was my mates/fellow supporters who were doing it.

I'm surprised that you're surprised, cowards rarely step in to these situations.............
 




Creaky

Well-known member
Mar 26, 2013
3,858
Hookwood - Nr Horley
I think they are completely different circumstances to be fair

The point I was making was that, certainly in my case, there are times people act without thought when they see something happening that they believe is wrong. I do think that were I stood by that train door I wouldn't have remained quiet and would have said something.

Quite possibly it would have aggravated the situation - as could have grabbing the thief mentioned in my earlier post. The similarity between the two incidents though is that I see both as equally wrong, so why act in one case and not the other.
 




Megazone

On his last warning
Jan 28, 2015
8,679
Northern Hemisphere.
I find it shocking that there are so many people on this thread who WOULDN'T have stood up for the black guy.

I can say with absolute certainty that if I was there, I would have - especially if it was my mates/fellow supporters who were doing it.

I'll join you with that one.

Most of them probably have never had a fight in their lives. Why is it so mad to stand up to bullies?
 






Sep 30, 2006
548
Up in the Gods
why , he could have got on another carriage???
regards
DR

Why should he have to? Who gave these thugs the authority to decide who gets on?

Their behaviour is that of cowardly bullies. Normal expectation would be to make space. if there was no space then politely state that's the case & suggest trying another carriage.

Looks like there was space on that carriage to me. The racist chanting only enforces the view that their reaction may have been different to someone of a different skin colour.

They don't have the authority or legal mandate to behave this way. It is wrong.
 




Jan 30, 2008
31,981
Right, so because there was no physical violence (though being pushed off a train is completely unacceptable) then nothing was wrong with what these CJTCs did?

You are a pathetic excuse for a human being for harbouring these views. Does it not cross your mind that mentally & emotionally such treatment can damage a person? Do you not consider that letting this behaviour go unpunished will only embolden these low lives?

People have the right to live their lives unhindered by others, just so long as they behave lawfully & reasonably. What gives these Neanderthals the right to treat a stranger this way? I'll tell you shall I...absolutely nothing.

Whatever excuses they or you come up with are completely unacceptable for singling out another person for discriminatory behaviour purely due to their appearance, gender, sexual orientation or disability. Those that do discriminate need to brought to book EVERY TIME it happens.
AS I SAID NO ONE GOT INJURED THE CHAP WANTS TO TAKE IT FURTHER , IT'S HIS CALL
regards
DR
 




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