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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
Your remark implied directly that a woman was being dishonest by not taking her husband's name after marriage.

I get it that you don't like Merkel. But using sexism to score political points is a tad bizarre, don't you think?

Maybe I've been watching Prime Minister's question time too often recently-sexism and bizarre behaviour to score political points seem the norm there 'Calm down,dear'
 




Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
Indeed. Just off the top of my head I can think of several British female politicians who don't use their married name: Harriet Harman, Yvette Cooper, Theresa Villiers, Priti Patel, Rachel Reeves ... I'm sure there are many more. Are they dishonest too?

I don't know what's more bizarre, the idea that a religious conservative like Merkel is some secret communist stooge or that women who don't take their husband's name are dishonest

Still not looked at East German history yet?Try membership of Free German Youth,or Agitprop secretaries of the East Berlin Insitute of Physics-you might learn something bizarre,instead of just spouting off the top of your head!
 


Boy Blue

Banned
Mar 14, 2016
766
If Cameron loses the referendum then he's history. I'd love it , absolutely love it if he loses.

Yes Dave, it's what I want anyway.

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Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
31,341
Uffern
Still not looked at East German history yet?Try membership of Free German Youth,or Agitprop secretaries of the East Berlin Insitute of Physics-you might learn something bizarre,instead of just spouting off the top of your head!

I know East German history very well, thanks very much. I spent unification day in 1990 with good friends who escaped from the DDR. We were in front of the Brandeburger Tor and I saw how emotional they got when the two countries symbolically became one.

I'm a regular reader of German newspapers and magazines and know there have been several attempts to paint Merkel as some sort of raving communist - when you look more closely all the stories emanate from the sort of sites frequented by tin-foil hat wearers and seem to be based solely on the fact that she was a member of the FDJ - ignoring the fact that about 80% of Germany's youth were members: it was hard to get an education without being one.

It's a bit like claiming that Pope Benedict was a Nazi because he'd been a member of the Hitler Jugend - he didn't deny it (nor did Merkel), that's the way things were then.

I'm a long-standing Brexiter but that's because I believe the EU is an inefficient, anti-democratic organisation. I certainly don't believe that it's being manipulated by Merkel as some sort of communist master plan - that would be totally bonkers
 










larus

Well-known member
lol!! Says a Socialist Labour supporter.

Couldn't make it up. :lolol:

The thing about the left wingers is they want a socialist society, but the reality is power corrupts. You can see this with the EU and forcing countries have have referendums again if they have the audacity to reject the EU rules. Also, the power in the EU really resides with the commission, WHO WE DON'T VOTE FOR. F****ing ludicrous.

Reminds me of an old 'joke' of 2 socialists/communists chatting.

1st Guy. "Come the revolution brother, we'll all drive around in big, black cars and smoke Cuban cigars".
2nd Guy. "What if I don't want to drive in big black cars and smoke Cuban cigars?".
1sy Guy. "Come the revolution brother, you'll do what you're bloody well told".
 


portslade seagull

Well-known member
Jul 19, 2003
17,639
portslade
Cameron's old financial advisor voting out stating remain is full of untruths and scare tactics. Oh dear starting to fall apart. Also Erdogan now pushing for Turkish visas or the deal for migrants is in jeopardy. I wonder what the EU will do mmmmm cave in I would wager
 




Hamilton

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 7, 2003
12,498
Brighton
Looks like everyone will have to add NIESR to their list of independent researchers that have cast doubt on leaving the EU.

They join OBR, ONS, UCL, LSE, HMRC, the Bank of England and the treasury on the list of organizations that are hopelessly wide of the mark. How can all these incredibly bright people and many independent organizations be so wrong?

Still, let's put our trust in an ex-Mayor that wants to be PM. He was genuinely torn a matter of weeks ago, but now he must be right.


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portslade seagull

Well-known member
Jul 19, 2003
17,639
portslade
Looks like everyone will have to add NIESR to their list of independent researchers that have cast doubt on leaving the EU.

They join OBR, ONS, UCL, LSE, HMRC, the Bank of England and the treasury on the list of organizations that are hopelessly wide of the mark. How can all these incredibly bright people and many independent organizations be so wrong?

Still, let's put our trust in an ex-Mayor that wants to be PM. He was genuinely torn a matter of weeks ago, but now he must be right.


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I wonder how much arm twisting has gone on there
 


Hamilton

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 7, 2003
12,498
Brighton
If the EU Referendum was today.

I wonder how much arm twisting has gone on there

About as much arm twisting as I have given you when it comes to you finding the £4,300 post you claimed I had back-tracked on. Zilch to date.


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Bladders

Twats everywhere
Jun 22, 2012
13,672
The Troubadour
Looks like everyone will have to add NIESR to their list of independent researchers that have cast doubt on leaving the EU.

They join OBR, ONS, UCL, LSE, HMRC, the Bank of England and the treasury on the list of organizations that are hopelessly wide of the mark. How can all these incredibly bright people and many independent organizations be so wrong?

Still, let's put our trust in an ex-Mayor that wants to be PM. He was genuinely torn a matter of weeks ago, but now he must be right.


Sent from my iPhone in a non-Calde world :-(

Didn't all these smart people say we'd suffer from not going into the Euro back in the day?

And are these the same smartypants who sat on their hands whilst the economy was heading towards meltdown back in 2008?

And aren't these also people with their own vested interests?
 


Bladders

Twats everywhere
Jun 22, 2012
13,672
The Troubadour
Exactly, perhaps he had been on the beer. There is nothing wrong with being poorer, being more isolationalist, being smaller when scotland leave etc. Its as simple as an X

How does that work then if one of the points of leaving is so we can freely trade with the rest in the world, not stuck isolated as just another number in the EU?
 






Hamilton

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 7, 2003
12,498
Brighton
Didn't all these smart people say we'd suffer from not going into the Euro back in the day?

And are these the same smartypants who sat on their hands whilst the economy was heading towards meltdown back in 2008?

And aren't these also people with their own vested interests?

I don't know if they were all asked to research those issues. Would be worth researching.

With UCL, LSE and NIESR there are definitely no agendas. ONS would also be impartial I would have thought.


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Hamilton

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 7, 2003
12,498
Brighton
You said it you find it no getting away from it passing the buck

I didn't. Don't fall into the same trap.

You have claimed I have back tracked. You find the evidence. You won't. You're therefore prepared to lie.


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