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Deadly Danson

Well-known member
Oct 22, 2003
4,019
Brighton
I haven't read a newspaper since being at the Euros in the summer, after reading some of the nonsense that was written about England fans at the time. However, it is so hard to know who to blame from a commuter point of view!

Having a view from the inside is always great to really get an understanding from another perspective. Unfortunately I can no longer work from home and my employers are becoming increasingly frustrated at my timekeeping.

What are your views on the current safety of passengers due to the conditions on the limited service on trains now? I understand passenger safety is paramount to all staff but surely more lives are being put at risk during strikes/overtime bans than at any other time due to the serious overcrowding?

I watched the urgent question in parliament yesterday that was presented on 5th December and it left me thinking that this is going to just keep going on for a while!

Haven't got long but just quickly - I don't think we can abdicate some degree of responsibility for current serious overcrowding and it is something that does weigh heavily but I would point out that we have only had 3 days of drivers' strikes so far, the goal is for an overall more safe railway, no "modernisation" plan should involve cutting down staff numbers, introducing less safe methods of working and reducing safety training. There are plenty of other reasons for the current debacle. And again, don't for a second think we don't think about commuters like you and your daily concerns but I don't see any other way at the moment. If I was striking and in dispute because I wanted more money or whatever I wouldn't expect an ounce of support but it is genuinely an attempt to keep the railway as safe as it possibly and realistically can be for you and your family.
 




Garry Nelson's teacher

Well-known member
May 11, 2015
5,257
Bloody Worthing!
Haven't got long but just quickly - I don't think we can abdicate some degree of responsibility for current serious overcrowding and it is something that does weigh heavily but I would point out that we have only had 3 days of drivers' strikes so far, the goal is for an overall more safe railway, no "modernisation" plan should involve cutting down staff numbers, introducing less safe methods of working and reducing safety training. There are plenty of other reasons for the current debacle. And again, don't for a second think we don't think about commuters like you and your daily concerns but I don't see any other way at the moment. If I was striking and in dispute because I wanted more money or whatever I wouldn't expect an ounce of support but it is genuinely an attempt to keep the railway as safe as it possibly and realistically can be for you and your family.

Thanks for this. Food for thought.
 


coagulantwolf

New member
Jun 21, 2012
716
Tim Loughton is really infuriating me at the moment, and has well and truly lost what I would classify as myself as an originally 'safe Tory' voter to now me not voting Tory.
 


The Birdman

New member
Nov 30, 2008
6,313
Haywards Heath
Second RMT Union member saying he wants to bring the government down and turn the uk into a socialist state .
Why doesn't move to Russia then he'll appreciate the Uk or better still go to North Korea .
 


clapham_gull

Legacy Fan
Aug 20, 2003
25,454
Second RMT Union member saying he wants to bring the government down and turn the uk into a socialist state .
Why doesn't move to Russia then he'll appreciate the Uk or better still go to North Korea .

Neither are socialist states, have you read the news in the last 20 years.....
 






Hotchilidog

Well-known member
Jan 24, 2009
8,734
Cut short my night out in London for a trip home via Thameslink this evening. Do not trust Victoria as far as i could throw it. This outrageous situation is difficult to comprehend. There is a lack of overtime yet Southern have used that as an excuse to pretty much cancel every London service from Brighton today. That is quite frankly bullshit. I'm a daily commuter and today a leisure traveller but I know who I trust and it is not Chris Grayling and Charles Horton that's for sure. At my own cost I still support the actual workers rather than those who wish to see them disappear.


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drew

Drew
Oct 3, 2006
23,075
Burgess Hill
Tim Loughton is really infuriating me at the moment, and has well and truly lost what I would classify as myself as an originally 'safe Tory' voter to now me not voting Tory.

Isn't he the guy that put in an expense claim for petrol for attending the Shoreham Air Disaster memorial service?
 




Change at Barnham

Well-known member
Aug 6, 2011
4,934
Bognor Regis
How reliable are we anticipating the trains being for the QPR game?
My lift from Bognor has just cancelled due to illness. Therefore it's a case of trusting Southern Rail or not bothering to travel.
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
70,387
When I first saw there only one train an hour from Brighton to Gatwick today (26 minutes past each hour) I booked my Xmas guest straight on to a National Express coach. Don't trust SASTA one inch to get them there for their flight, even allowing a couple of hours contingency.
 


Barry Izbak

U.T.A.
Dec 7, 2005
7,329
Lancing By Sea
Its Plumpton Racecourse's biggest meeting on Monday 2nd, featuring the Sussex National.
http://plumptonracecourse.co.uk/


Thanks to the latest strike action, no trains at all running.
Attendance is bound to be well down as a result
Loss of earnings for the course
Loss of earnings for the bookies, brewers, caterers

Pathetic rail "service" run by an incompetent company who have been given a joke contract by a Government with no clue, and staffed by militant tendancy.

It doesn't matter whether you're trying to get to the Amex, the races, or to work, these prats will fack it up for you
 








Diablo

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Sep 22, 2014
4,211
lewes
All this fuss caused by whether guards are needed to shut doors on trains, yet we are now testing driverless cars. A train only needs to start and stop..It`s on a rail FFS..Driverless trains must be the answer!!!
 




Diego Napier

Well-known member
Mar 27, 2010
4,416
All this fuss caused by whether guards are needed to shut doors on trains, yet we are now testing driverless cars. A train only needs to start and stop..It`s on a rail FFS..Driverless trains must be the answer!!!

They will be eventually - it's just that it will take a mammoth logistical effort to get us there.
 


Super Steve Earle

Well-known member
Feb 23, 2009
8,394
North of Brighton
Again, previously if the cameras weren't working it wasn't a big deal, the guard closes the doors and the cameras are useful to us to keep an eye on what's going on. Now they have to be 100% for us to dispatch a train - by the company's own instruction - so naturally more faults will be reported.

Last year Mrs Earle got squished when the doors closed 10 minutes before departure and as she was boarding. She fell in to the corridor and, guess what, when we complained, the cameras weren't working. Train left on time. Camerass only seem to have a very selective operating time, like when it suits Southern!
 


Westdene Wonder

New member
Aug 3, 2010
1,787
Brighton
Its Plumpton Racecourse's biggest meeting on Monday 2nd, featuring the Sussex National.
http://plumptonracecourse.co.uk/


Thanks to the latest strike action, no trains at all running.
Attendance is bound to be well down as a result
Loss of earnings for the course
Loss of earnings for the bookies, brewers, caterers

Pathetic rail "service" run by an incompetent company who have been given a joke contract by a Government with no clue, and staffed by militant tendancy.

It doesn't matter whether you're trying to get to the Amex, the races, or to work, these prats will fack it up for you

Not if you have Sky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 






Papa Lazarou

Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Jul 7, 2003
18,884
Worthing
So, what's the deal with trains between Xmas and New Year?

I see there are no direct services from Worthing to London Bridge (via Hove) in the mornings... is this normal, or is it as a result of some sort of industrial action?
 


samtheseagull

Well-known member
Sep 15, 2010
1,599
So, what's the deal with trains between Xmas and New Year?

I see there are no direct services from Worthing to London Bridge (via Hove) in the mornings... is this normal, or is it as a result of some sort of industrial action?

Im just looking at getting the train to Fulham. looking tough
 


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