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If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?

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nicko31

nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
17,662
Gods country fortnightly
Thunder Bolt said:
They aren't going to walk away, no matter how much Johnson wants them to. He will be unable to point the finger and say 'it's their fault'.

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Smart move by the EU, just reconfirms No Deal was always a UK choice in the middle of the global pandemic and the worst economic hit for 300 years

Its important to remember only one side has ever used it as a threat, the side ironically that stands to lose the most
 




vegster

vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
27,922
nicko31 said:
Smart move by the EU, just reconfirms No Deal was always a UK choice in the middle of the global pandemic and the worst economic hit for 300 years

Its important to remember only one side has ever used it as a threat, the side ironically that stands to lose the most
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Things are getting ever tougher for Johnson now, accepting the EU offer of an extension would be impossible for the hard Brexiteers to cope with but, might have given him a nice Christmas basking in the reflected glory of the vaccine rollout. He can't do anything without upsetting some faction in his party.
 


A1X

A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
18,126
Deepest, darkest Sussex
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Thunder Bolt

Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Aug 18, 2009
65,716
Beside the seaside, beside the sea
Johnson does a U turn despite whipping the Tory MPs last night.

The EU and UK have reached agreement in principle on how to implement the most contentious issues around the Northern Ireland Protocol.

The agreement was announced in a joint statement by European Commission Vice-President Maroš Šefčovič and UK Cabinet Office Minister Michael Gove.

As a result of the agreement the UK will withdraw the clauses in the Internal Market Bill which would have breached the Northern Ireland Protocol, and "will not introduce any similar provisions in the Taxation Bill," the statement said.

https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2020/1208/1183069-johnson-brexit-talks/
 


A1X

A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
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Still, MASSIVE NEWS everyone! The German car industry has finally broken it's silence!

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nicko31

nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,662
Gods country fortnightly
A1X said:
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So British expats (immigrants) in Spain are saying its all remainers fault that life will now become more complicated, if it wasn't for them it would have been straight forward to get a deal.

On a positive note they might be forced to learn a bit of Spanish
 


beorhthelm

beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,358
Thunder Bolt said:
They aren't going to walk away, no matter how much Johnson wants them to. He will be unable to point the finger and say 'it's their fault'.
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have EU, or UK for that matter, ever said there would be no negotiations after transition period? maybe implied in some peoples minds, in practice there would be ongoing negotiations with UK as third country. so this is either a statement of obvious, or EU extending the transition period. quite a difference there.
 




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Billy the Fish

Technocrat
Oct 18, 2005
17,512
Haywards Heath
nicko31 said:
Commonwealth Bank's "Australia style" departure from London

https://www.theguardian.com/news/20...alia-move-european-hq-london-amsterdam-brexit

Sorry guys, Amsterdam has shit weather as well
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daveinprague said:
Financial institutions leaving the UK is Project Fear, promoted by 'lefties'. Fake news etc etc
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Fake news indeed, the article doesn't say they're leaving London. NEXT......

CBA will employ about 50 people in Amsterdam by June, its European director, Wilco Hendriks, told the Dutch financial daily FD, while its London office would remain open with a four times bigger staff
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Randy McNob

Randy McNob

Now go home and get your f#cking Shinebox
Jun 13, 2020
4,504
A1X said:
Still, MASSIVE NEWS everyone! The German car industry has finally broken it's silence!

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what about about Brexiters who want to pay tarriffs? is it optional? On the form they could indicate they voted for extra tarriffs, please ad another 10% on the price
 


nicko31

nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
17,662
Gods country fortnightly
Billy the Fish said:
Fake news indeed, the article doesn't say they're leaving London. NEXT......
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CBA moves European headquarters from London to Amsterdam

Wonder where their profits will be booked in future Billy?

Check, change, go (overseas)
 


WATFORD zero

WATFORD zero

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Jul 10, 2003
26,018
Billy the Fish said:
Fake news indeed, the article doesn't say they're leaving London. NEXT......
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Well, while we have a Brexit supporter on the Brexit thread coming up with solutions

WATFORD zero said:
We are where we are and whatever has happened in the past is history. These are the three main issues which we, as a nation, have to resolve within the next couple of weeks.

1. What is going to happen about the Ireland/NI border ?
The withdrawal agreement had an Irish Sea border, but the Government have now said there will be no Irish sea procedures or documentation and the EU are accusing us of breaking International Law, so where should the border between the UK and EU be ?

2. What is going to happen about a tariff free deal ?
Why would the EU allow us tariff free access to all their huge markets with no control to stop our companies undercutting their companies by changing 'our' rules on Government subsidies, Animal welfare, Safety, Worker welfare, additives, preservatives etc etc ? The so-called Level Playing Field.

3 What is going to happen about fishing.
Given that the fishing industry exports the majority of it's catch, is tariff free access to the EU critical to the whole industry going forward ? And, given that it's a smaller part of the UK economy than Harrod's, how much consideration should be given to it.

'No Deal' could be a solution to 2 & 3, but at quite significant cost and still doesn't resolve 1.

These have to be resolved in the next couple of weeks, and neither myself or [MENTION=534]Chicken Run[/MENTION] could come up with any suggested solutions that would resolve these.

It really doesn't matter what you voted or what anyone else did. Can anyone suggest a solution ?
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There's was a whole thread on it a couple of week ago here but, for some reason you didn't contribute :shrug:

Never mind, even at this late date, I'm sure your solution would still be welcome :thumbsup:



*edit* Oh he's gone. Must have had something urgent come up :down:
 
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neilbard

neilbard

Hedging up
Oct 8, 2013
6,245
Tyringham


As Harold Wilson once said about Edward Heath "He's a shiver looking for a spine to run up" :lolol:

The irony is Heath was the chap that got us into the EU to start with..
 
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WATFORD zero

WATFORD zero

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Jul 10, 2003
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Just when you think it would be impossible to be more incompetent, it looks like we're getting no deal AND a border in the Irish sea :facepalm:

You really couldn't make it up, The Conservative and Unionist Party

It's almost enough to make you feel some sympathy for NSC's leading Unionist JCFG/POTG ..... almost :lolol:
 
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