WHC IX: The FINAL***

Bold Seagull · Feb 9, 2016

Thunder Bolt said:
The salt water croc doesn't just laze around in brackish rivers. It swims out into the ocean to kill and eat SHARKS.

It eats small sharks that swim a bit too close to shore, or get disorientated in river estuaries. The idea that these crocs are swimming out and attacking big sharks is fanciful, it's just a smallish fish to a SWC. Nothing hard in eating fish for dinner...

Simster · Feb 9, 2016

Thunder Bolt said:
The salt water croc doesn't just laze around in brackish rivers. It swims out into the ocean to kill and eat SHARKS.

Quite.

Bold Seagull said:
It eats small sharks that swim a bit too close to shore, or get disorientated in river estuaries. The idea that these crocs are swimming out and attacking great whites is fanciful, it's just a smallish fish to a SWC. Nothing hard in eating fish for dinner...

Just to re-iterate, I once went on a trip to see these hard animals for myself. The chap doing the tour said there had been a half eaten tiger shark found washed up in the delta, where a croc had decided on a snack and tucked into one just out to sea.

mejonaNO12 aka riskit · Feb 9, 2016

Simster said:
, I once went on a trip to see these hard animals for myself. .

I once wanted to go see a Wolverine but I was warned I would have my face ripped off.

I was told to join the trip to see the crocs instead.

Bold Seagull · Feb 9, 2016

Simster said:
Quite.

Just to re-iterate, I once went on a trip to see these hard animals for myself. The chap doing the tour said there had been a half eaten tiger shark found washed up in the delta, where a croc had decided on a snack and tucked into one just out to sea.

Could have already been dead when the croc got hold of it. The chap doing the tour entertaining his paid guests said it....must be true then!

hans kraay fan club · Feb 9, 2016

mejonaNO12 aka riskit said:
I once wanted to go see a Wolverine ...
.

But they couldn't find one, because they are so sh1t at killing things / reproducing / basic survival, that according to their chief cheerleader, there is only one of the scraggy little things, per sodding COUNTY.

Simster · Feb 9, 2016

mejonaNO12 aka riskit said:
I once wanted to go see a Wolverine but I was warned I probably wouldn't get to see one as they run away when they see people.

I was told to join the trip to see the crocs instead.

Fixed for you.

Simster · Feb 9, 2016

Bold Seagull said:
Could have already been dead when the croc got hold of it. The chap doing the tour entertaining his paid guests said it....must be true then!

Desperate.

This isn't an uncommon occurrence apparently. And I'm always team shark as I love them, so have no reason to lie.

beefypigeon · Feb 9, 2016

Simster said:
Just to re-iterate, I once went on a trip to see these hard animals for myself. The chap doing the tour said there had been a half eaten tiger shark found washed up in the delta, where a croc had decided on a snack and tucked into one just out to sea.

Tiger sharks are typically smaller than SWC's. The croc also has the better weaponry, with the 'most powerful bite in the world'. So you'd absolutely expect a SWC to win in such a scrap. Why is that considered so hard?

hans kraay fan club · Feb 9, 2016

beefypigeon said:
Tiger sharks are typically smaller than SWC's. The croc also has the better weaponry, with the 'most powerful bite in the world'. So you'd absolutely expect a SWC to win in such a scrap. Why is that considered so hard?

It's taking on another hard creature, on THEIR terms - in THEIR ring. Hard.

JC Footy Genius · Feb 9, 2016

Bold Seagull said:
It eats small sharks that swim a bit too close to shore, or get disorientated in river estuaries. The idea that these crocs are swimming out and attacking big sharks is fanciful, it's just a smallish fish to a SWC. Nothing hard in eating fish for dinner...

Well said and if they run into a python .... game over

beefypigeon · Feb 9, 2016

hans kraay fan club said:
It's taking on another hard creature, on THEIR terms - in THEIR ring. Hard.

Please correct me if I'm wrong... but was the Tiger Shark even nominated for the competition this year? The only shark I can remember is the GWS, and that lost to a mouse.

Also you are aware of what the 'Saltwater' part of SWC implies, yes? It has basically decided to go for a leisurely swim in order to get a fairly easy meal.

Croc is obviously a hard beast, I'm not denying that. But I can't see how the example of it killing a smaller beast in it's own territory proves it is actually hard. It just doesn't compare to a beast that takes down creatures 20 times its size.

Thunder Bolt · Feb 9, 2016

JC Footy Genius said:
Well said and if they run into a python .... game over

It's managed to find a baby croc. Adult salt water crocs grow to over 14 metres. The Australian python only reaches 8 metres.

hans kraay fan club · Feb 9, 2016

beefypigeon said:
Croc is obviously a hard beast, I'm not denying that. But I can't see how the example of it killing a smaller beast in it's own territory proves it is actually hard. It just doesn't compare to a beast that takes down creatures 20 times its size.

If the croc used its weaponry to kill a big fat, defenceless WHALE, would you consider that 'hard'?

Because that's all the Wolverine is doing, snapping at the legs of a deer*.

*or more commonly, waiting for a wolf to kill it, hiding in the bushes, and eating any left-overs.

beefypigeon · Feb 9, 2016

The point I'm making is, SWC should be able to kill its fellow inhabitants because of its relative size and weaponry. If that's how you measure the 'hardness' of a creature then fine, that's your choice.

I prefer to measure a creatures hardness based on mental toughness, bravery and endeavor. The croc doesn't exhibit any of these traits in my opinion, whereas the Wolverine has these in abundance.

mejonaNO12 aka riskit · Feb 9, 2016

JC Footy Genius said:
Well said and if they run into a python .... game over

Let's just make sure this image is on the latest page.

It's so hard it gets HUGGED to death by something with NO ARMS.

So that's elastic bands, towel over the eyes and CUDDLES which can DISABLE a SCARY croc.

MattBackHome · Feb 9, 2016

There is another forgotten trait that contributes to hardness, which is slightly distinct from bravery, and aggression and it's the indefinable notion of how mental the animal is. Is it likely to do something utterly insane, just because it's mad, or because it fancies a PAGGA?

I reckon reptiles in general lose points here because they rarely display the emotion exhibited in some mammals.

hans kraay fan club · Feb 9, 2016

MattBackHome said:
There is another forgotten trait that contributes to hardness, which is slightly distinct from bravery, and aggression and it's the indefinable notion of how mental the animal is. Is it likely to do something utterly insane, just because it's mad, or because it fancies a PAGGA?

I reckon reptiles in general lose points here because they rarely display the emotion exhibited in some mammals.

Let's draw an analogy. A local pub.

Amongst the regulars, there's a little head-case. Punchy, aggressive little tool. Always on the edge of starting something. He's pretty hard, to be fair, but on close scrutiny, he picks his targets - he's effectively an angry little bully.

Then there's the other guy, who just sits in the corner, taking it all in. The 'hard' little fella NEVER crosses this guy,

Little man is the one making all the noise, getting involved, starting stuff, but we all KNOW who the really HARD one is.

Thunder Bolt · Feb 9, 2016

MattBackHome said:
There is another forgotten trait that contributes to hardness, which is slightly distinct from bravery, and aggression and it's the indefinable notion of how mental the animal is. Is it likely to do something utterly insane, just because it's mad, or because it fancies a PAGGA?

I reckon reptiles in general lose points here because they rarely display the emotion exhibited in some mammals.

The croc survived a meteorite hit and can lose a limb/tail without dying. If the wolverine lost a limb it would bleed to death.

Bold Seagull · Feb 9, 2016

Thunder Bolt said:
The croc survived a meteorite hit and can lose a limb/tail without dying. If the wolverine lost a limb it would bleed to death.

If a polar bear lost a limb it would bleed to death, and it didn't survive a meteorite hit either....but is rested so creatures like these can have a day of glory. So meaningless point really.

Marshy · Feb 9, 2016

hans kraay fan club said:
Let's draw an analogy. A local pub.

Amongst the regulars, there's a little head-case. Punchy, aggressive little tool. Always on the edge of starting something. He's pretty hard, to be fair, but on close scrutiny, he picks his targets - he's effectively an angry little bully.

Then there's the other guy, who just sits in the corner, taking it all in. The 'hard' little fella NEVER crosses this guy,

Little man is the one making all the noise, getting involved, starting stuff, but we all KNOW who the really HARD one is.

Because he has a bullet proof vest on and is carrying a knife, not because he is hard ;-)

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