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tbf, he appears to believe in a benevolent, unconditionally loving god, which is nice. not bat shit nonsence about lizard people hiding as human leaders.

no you havent. i've checked, between the question and saying your story was a parable, no replys. is that your anwser, its a parable? doesnt really address the question, certainly not the gravity of it. or is your answer "He doesn't" which is a bit terse and unqualified, to which i might ask...

i think you may be mistaken, as you have not asked any questions. and as i recall, the conversation never took a turn for the worse, i used some language when projecting opinion of your God that you dont like. i simply followed deductive reasoning, though i may have skipped a step for brevity...

thank you making your point as you would to a pre-enlightenment farm worker, it demonstrates the paucity of material you have to work with. its a shame you give up, rather than attempt to think about the question i posed you.

who is it that's demanding to go out and experience "being"? your story is contrived to fit the conclusion, not starting from a real position. even if a few did, why apply it wholesale to everyone, when you could allow those that want this to go on their merry way, while protecting those...

i allowed you to set the definition, remember. you gave it the characteristis, not me. i understand that you cant challenge any of the points, because your faith prevents you from accepting the logical conclusions.

i didnt claim there were rules, you infered it. for a God to allow pain and suffering, then expect others to counter that, seems like a game to me. your God is a petty and malicious one so far, love me or suffer seems to be the message. you want to claim "we" create all the badness, i dont see...

a bit of basic deduction. if God wants us to have an experience based on unconditional love, with compassion, joy, peace, calm and so on, and there is pain, diesese, in mankind and in the rest of nature, it follow your God's will has been overpowered. if you are saying we are responsible for...

presumably not. so there is another force, one capable of over powering your God and his will. i would curious to know what this deity is.

no, no. trying again. God by your definition is supposed to give unconditional love. so why do we have to conform to some rules? and back to the question, what possible way is a mother to prevent a birth deformity such as gastroschisis, what is bestowed to stop this suffering? why was it...

i see you've dropped out at the first challenge, thanks for playing though.

so why does your God allow pain and suffering? why is a child born with illness or deformity? not very compassionate. why does your God allow conflict and war? not very peacful or calm. or are you suggesting that he doesnt have knowledge of or power to do anything about these?

im touched by your sentiments. but to your first draft as quoted, if your God know everything, why does he not do anything to intervene?

Define your God and we'll begin.

Genesis 1:27 prehaps? you can have Genesis 5:1 and 9:6 too, and theres numerous other references.

hair spliting, but grammar is very important to get terms and definitions set: is that the existance of God, or the existance of gods? the former is easy to disprove, the second difficult to disprove. either can easily be proven by God or gods, which absence of this evidence goes along way to...

the all disbelieve the same thing. its the definition of the term.

an atheist doesnt need such a crutch.

so Alaska doesnt exist because you havent seen it? the difference between the micro world or Alaska and God is that for the former there is evidence or you can see them for youself. for the latter there is no evidence whatsoever.

because of a book title discussing it, by a physicist, who wanted to call it the "Goddam Particle" as a title, and refer to the particle as its correct name - Higgs - but was persuaded otherwise by his publisher. and so it stuck in the popular media, and is a source of great embarrassment.