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Nobby

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But hats off to our very own Lord Henry Gage who managed to get his private drive tarmacadamed through the levelling up scheme before the money ran out! What!

Still breeding past 75, and making sure central government money is redirected to Sussex! Such a role model for us Sussaxons! What!


Bloody good chap! What!
What what what!!

sick inducing
 




MJsGhost

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But hats off to our very own Lord Henry Gage who managed to get his private drive tarmacadamed through the levelling up scheme before the money ran out! What!

Still breeding past 75, and making sure central government money is redirected to Sussex! Such a role model for us Sussaxons! What!


Bloody good chap! What!
Far be it for me to stick up for a Tory aristocrat, but that's a bit of a misrepresentation of the facts here...

The road in question is not the private drive to Firle Place for starters. It's fair to say that the road isn't a public road (i.e. looked after by the highways authority or whatever they are called), so strictly speaking it is a private road belonging to the Firle estate.
However, for the road in question, 95%+ of the traffic will be for Charleston Farmhouse and it doesn't serve Firle Place at all (although it does also provide access to a working farm and a few houses). It wouldn't even need to be a properly surfaced road if it wasn't for the 100,000+ visitors to Charleston every year (which don't directly benefit the Firle Estate).

The charity that runs Charleston Farmhouse as a tourist attraction & art festival venue is completely independent from the Firle Estate. I have no inside knowledge of this, but would find it perfectly reasonable if after the Farmhouse was given to the charity, an arrangement whereby the charity is responsible for maintaining the access road was agreed.

The implication in these media reports is that a wealthy aristocrat (Gage) has used levelling up money to get his personal drive resurfaced, when the story is more accurately one of a charity applying for a grant to improve visitor access to their venue (which just happens to be a road on land that is owned by the Firle Estate/Gage).
Maybe the Gage family obtained some favourable tax breaks for donating Charleston to the charity in the first place, but it seems a little harsh to make out that they have now somehow conned some money out of the levelling up fund for their own benefit.

A better question might be why an arts venue (let's face it, aimed mostly at the middle classes) with revenues well over £3m pa, in the wealthy south-east, needs access to the levelling-up fund anyway. Leafy Firle and its surrounds isn't what immediately springs to mind when I think of places that need "levelling-up". No wonder the money ran out.

It's interesting that The Mail (spit) ran with the story (which is over 2 years old) though. It's not their usual type of target at all (more typical is one of the comments below: "I am glad to hear this. I would rather our government spent this money on something that is genuinely a part of our historical heritage, rather than on the new arrivals")

Right, I'm off to scrub myself clean after that :lolol:
 




TomandJerry

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Oct 1, 2013
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The government has lost a second vote in the Lords on the Rwanda bill. Lord Hope’s amendment was passed by a majority of 102. It says the government cannot treat Rwanda as a safe country until the provisions of the UK-Rwanda treaty have been implemented.
 


WATFORD zero

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Just when you think they have sunk as low as possible

Lords tell Sunak: Don’t send Afghan heroes to Rwanda​

Two former chiefs of the defence staff, a former defence secretary and a former British ambassador to the US, are among members who want to add an exemption to the Rwanda bill to stop those who have worked alongside the UK forces and arrive in Britain via unsafe and illegal routes from being sent to the African country.

They include former members of the Afghan special forces units, known as The Triples, who fought alongside and were paid and trained by the UK special forces. One former senior British diplomat said it “beggared belief” that these soldiers, who were forced to flee the Taliban, could face being deported to the east African country after all they had been through.


https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/ukne...1&cvid=360b988168394357a7be61c90f1f0f41&ei=16

There really aren't words :shrug:
 
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A1X

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Deepest, darkest Sussex
 


Thunder Bolt

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Some good news for once. Murdoch's TalkTV is closing its channel and going online only, and Dan Wooton is confirmed as having been sacked from GB news, although that channel is reporting losses of over £76million.
 


Greg Bobkin

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No, I don’t think it is the same one.

Deliberately inaccurate or genuine mistake, who’s to know?

She called Boris Johnson and his cabinet ;

“homophobic, racist, misogynistic … scum”

And that’s a quote from the link YOU posted.

She didn’t call Tory voters scum.

She said it after the Tory parties misdeeds during Covid were coming to light and referring to Johnson’s language about Muslims, blacks people and women. As well as cutting off school meals for kids who cannot afford to eat.

It’s all there in the article you posted.

If you are going to to try to discredit MP’s, do try and get your facts right. Especially if you’re using them to back up your argument!
Probably a good idea to spell their name correctly, too :dunce:
 




clapham_gull

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Aug 20, 2003
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Some good news for once. Murdoch's TalkTV is closing its channel and going online only.

Not so much good news. They are now somewhat out of control of regulators and into the land of free for all, whilst still masquerading as news.

GBNews will do the same eventually.

Both channels were effectively the internet internet brought to linear TV. Now they have built the brand back to the uncontrolled internet.
 


chickens

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Not so much good news. They are now somewhat out of control of regulators and into the land of free for all, whilst still masquerading as news.

GBNews will do the same eventually.

Both channels were effectively the internet internet brought to linear TV. Now they have built the brand back to the uncontrolled internet.

Agree, but their target market is largely still struggling with the switch to DAB and Digital TV, so I reckon they’ll have to turn the dial a long long way to find those channels out there.
 


A1X

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Interesting we already seem to know the budget details the day before, I remember when the idea of leaking the budget in advance was the most heinous crime imaginable
 




WATFORD zero

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No, I explained at length exactly what Johnson and Farage were all over NSC from the moment they first appeared on the political scene. I warned people against supporting them, and gave what has proven to be an incredibly accurate account of what would happen if Brexit was voted for at the referendum. I highlighted the NIP issues, the issues with implementing border controls (which we still haven't done) the impact on British exporters, the effect on the fishing, logistics, care, hospitality, NHS and other industries too many to mention, the Inflation it would cause and all the various other associated problems etc etc etc

I then continued to explain the best possible way out of the situation that we found ourselves in, post the 2016 referendum when May was PM. I warned against Johnson becoming leader of the conservative party and also warned in no uncertain terms about what would happen if he actually won a majority.

When he did win, I told everybody to batten down the hatches and try and protect themselves from the inevitable and entirely predictable incoming shitstorm. I even gave quite detailed financial advice on what to do to try and minimise the effect of Farage/Brexit/Johnson and protect yourself and your family.

It's all here on NSC, a good few thousand posts to this effect on here The Brexit Thread and on here The 2019 Election thread so fill your boots.

I'm really not sure what more I could have done to try and stop people from being stupid :shrug:

Absolutely no after timing whatsoever, it's almost spooky :wink:

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I really hate people who say 'I told you so, don't you :wink:

I've got him/the thread on ignore so it really didn't happen and we aren't here where we are :lolol:
 
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Harry Wilson's tackle

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Oct 8, 2003
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Textbook speech from Rishi.

This outrageous story was totally covered up in the majority of the media because they all took the Sunk culture war bait. Genius.

Sunk had a moment when he could have binned the whole batshit crazy 'plan', attaching it to the silly bat who preceded him, and the other bat he sacked, without the nation doing anything other than nodding in approval but, no, he ploughed on. I think out of fear of his own party. Weak man. And clueless.
 






Harry Wilson's tackle

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Far be it for me to stick up for a Tory aristocrat, but that's a bit of a misrepresentation of the facts here...

The road in question is not the private drive to Firle Place for starters. It's fair to say that the road isn't a public road (i.e. looked after by the highways authority or whatever they are called), so strictly speaking it is a private road belonging to the Firle estate.
However, for the road in question, 95%+ of the traffic will be for Charleston Farmhouse and it doesn't serve Firle Place at all (although it does also provide access to a working farm and a few houses). It wouldn't even need to be a properly surfaced road if it wasn't for the 100,000+ visitors to Charleston every year (which don't directly benefit the Firle Estate).

The charity that runs Charleston Farmhouse as a tourist attraction & art festival venue is completely independent from the Firle Estate. I have no inside knowledge of this, but would find it perfectly reasonable if after the Farmhouse was given to the charity, an arrangement whereby the charity is responsible for maintaining the access road was agreed.

The implication in these media reports is that a wealthy aristocrat (Gage) has used levelling up money to get his personal drive resurfaced, when the story is more accurately one of a charity applying for a grant to improve visitor access to their venue (which just happens to be a road on land that is owned by the Firle Estate/Gage).
Maybe the Gage family obtained some favourable tax breaks for donating Charleston to the charity in the first place, but it seems a little harsh to make out that they have now somehow conned some money out of the levelling up fund for their own benefit.

A better question might be why an arts venue (let's face it, aimed mostly at the middle classes) with revenues well over £3m pa, in the wealthy south-east, needs access to the levelling-up fund anyway. Leafy Firle and its surrounds isn't what immediately springs to mind when I think of places that need "levelling-up". No wonder the money ran out.

It's interesting that The Mail (spit) ran with the story (which is over 2 years old) though. It's not their usual type of target at all (more typical is one of the comments below: "I am glad to hear this. I would rather our government spent this money on something that is genuinely a part of our historical heritage, rather than on the new arrivals")

Right, I'm off to scrub myself clean after that :lolol:
If that is one of the rat runs I use to dodge Lewes on the way to the Amex, terrific. It means I can hurtle along at 60 MPH without fear of a puncture and knocking my alignment out. Bravo! If I accidentally run over any old buffers with shotguns, walking between partridge shoots, I will of course be saddened. Possibly even disappointed.
 


clapham_gull

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Aug 20, 2003
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Agree, but their target market is largely still struggling with the switch to DAB and Digital TV, so I reckon they’ll have to turn the dial a long long way to find those channels out there.
Their target is a bit more complex than implied, which is why GBNews have spent so much effort to get George Galloway on there.
 


chickens

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Oct 12, 2022
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Their target is a bit more complex than implied, which is why GBNews have spent so much effort to get George Galloway on there.

They have no clear target that I can discern beyond “angry and disaffected.”

At this stage it feels like they’re just throwing stuff at random to see if anything sticks.
 




TomandJerry

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Oct 1, 2013
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The public are increasingly facing food-related “Russian roulette”, with hospital admissions for three common illnesses linked to food poisoning reaching their highest level in decades.

Admissions for salmonella infections reached 1,468 in England between April 2022 and March 2023, NHS data shows, a rate of three admissions for every 100,000 people, an all-time high.


E coli and campylobacter have also reached record highs in the past two years, with hospital admissions for the latter reaching more than 4,340, a rate of nine in 100,000 people in 2023 up from three in 100,000 in 2000.

The cause of the increase is disputed. Experts point to various factors: weakening regulatory focus, a weakening of standards in importation checks post-Brexit and local authority cuts, while the UK food standards authority puts it down to improved detection.
 


A1X

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Now why did she single out that student on a team of four, I wonder?
 


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