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[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...



Thunder Bolt

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The Police are ignoring a lot at the Gaza protests, I don't think blame can all be directed at the Tories.

It's completely snowballed from the first couple of weeks when they let stuff go.
Snowballed to what exactly?

MI5 has said most of the investigating and prosecutions are coming from the extreme right wing.
 




Kinky Gerbil

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Nothing to do with the Right Wing press and "enemies of the people" stuff surrounding Brexit of course

This has been festering for a long while - and with the Lee Anderson's of this world becoming deputy of the Conservative Party, what the hell do people expect.

Hypocritical bstd Sunak and his ilk

Of course he is a hypercritical tosser.

But what we've seen in recent weeks is mainly down to the events unfolding in Gaza and the position of our MPs on it.
 


Kinky Gerbil

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Snowballed to what exactly?

MI5 has said most of the investigating and prosecutions are coming from the extreme right wing.

I know you like to try and blame the Government and it's apparent far right stance, but surely you accept the raised threats to MPs recently has not been from those scumbags.
 


Nobby

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I know you like to try and blame the Government and it's apparent far right stance, but surely you accept the raised threats to MPs recently has not been from those scumbags.
The point is that after 9 years of the sh*tshow that was Cameron and May, (which was bad enough), the whole atmosphere of Government was dragged into the gutter by Johnson, then Truss and now Sunak.
Most people in this country are struggling with the failures of all of the above imbeciles, the trouble is the decent politicians left (on both sides) are feeling the aftermath and impact.
Dividing to rule hasn't worked and will not work (well hope not), but it has created, and will continue to create, deeper and wider divisions where extreme views are held. And when those views are held by some of the "Great Offices of State" we're a bit beggared 😢
Scary times
 


WATFORD zero

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I know you like to try and blame the Government and it's apparent far right stance, but surely you accept the raised threats to MPs recently has not been from those scumbags.

The divide and blame culture has been Government policy for the last five years (and from the vote leave campaign before they took over Government) in an attempt to take attention away from the serious incompetence and dishonesty which has resulted in huge long term economic, structural and welfare problems throughout Britain today.

Israel/Gaza is simply the latest focal point for this 'look over there' policy :shrug:

30 mins to kick off :bigwave:
 




Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
I know you like to try and blame the Government and it's apparent far right stance, but surely you accept the raised threats to MPs recently has not been from those scumbags.
Where are the threats? Have we seen proof of threats apart from posts on the internet?
I remember Maria Caulfield getting all het up about some people from Lewes who dressed up as nuns singing ‘How do you solve a problem like Maria‘, from the Sound of Music. She complained they were taking the mickey out of her religion (Roman Catholic), when I doubt hardly anyone knew her denomination.
She complained to the police her office was vandalised, when a few stickers were placed on the door & windows, saying B*****s to Brexit, and that her pregnant assistant was terrified.
I haven’t exaggerated one bit but you’d think she was in real danger the way she carried on.

I don’t think any politician should feel threatened, but Sadiq Khan must feel threatened by Anderson and his lies.
Rishi Sunak should be asking for calm, but instead is allowing his MPs to say what they want without his condemnation. Weakly saying, it’s wrong is not good enough.
 








Hugo Rune

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Half of the press this morning, we all know which half, banging on about mob rule and threats to democracy.
And the blue rinses will be clutching their pearls even tighter.

FFS

They have a need to create an “enemy”.
An unseen and insidious threat to our “wonderful” way of life.
Quite a few tinpot regimes - and a few less tinpot - have done this over the decades.
1930’s Germany for one - Putin these days
Textbook speech from Rishi.

This outrageous story was totally covered up in the majority of the media because they all took the Sunk culture war bait. Genius.
 


rogersix

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This thread is a depressing manifest of the 21st century hate disease that has engulfed us - in fact, a perfect example.
the tories have always been "evil", they have a very long history of spreading hatred, nothing new here
 






Hugo Rune

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What a funking shock.


But hats off to our very own Lord Henry Gage who managed to get his private drive tarmacadamed through the levelling up scheme before the money ran out! What!

Still breeding past 75, and making sure central government money is redirected to Sussex! Such a role model for us Sussaxons! What!


Bloody good chap! What!
 


CHAPPERS

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Jul 5, 2003
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That absolute WEASEL of a man, Michael Gove, is taking questions in the Commons later. He usually manages to obfuscate his way out of these things so it will be interesting to see how he does today.
 


carlzeiss

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Disagree with a fair old chunk of those reports, but there is clearly an issue currently, MPs, both Labour and Tories are needing extra security, MPs personal offices and houses are being targeted for protests, in some cases they have turned nasty.

We had the speaker come out last week saying he went against protocol due to worries over MPs safety, which meant a change in how something was voted on, this was asked for by Labour.


That's not me agreeing with the Tories and on the more powers they clearly want, but there is more to this than party politics.

Is that the same Angela Raynor that called Conservative voters " Scum "


 




The Clamp

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Is that the same Angela Raynor that called Conservative voters " Scum "




No, I don’t think it is the same one.

Deliberately inaccurate or genuine mistake, who’s to know?

She called Boris Johnson and his cabinet ;

“homophobic, racist, misogynistic … scum”

And that’s a quote from the link YOU posted.

She didn’t call Tory voters scum.

She said it after the Tory parties misdeeds during Covid were coming to light and referring to Johnson’s language about Muslims, blacks people and women. As well as cutting off school meals for kids who cannot afford to eat.

It’s all there in the article you posted.
 
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abc

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Jan 6, 2007
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And yet he supports the 'mob rule' of tory voting farmer's protests......
Farmers who are protesting are definitely not Tory voting! Like much of the rest of society, voting habits are changing. Farmers may well have been historic Tories (Tories rural/Labour urban etc) but no longer
 


abc

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Farmers who are protesting are definitely not Tory voting! Like much of the rest of society, voting habits are changing. Farmers may well have been historic Tories (Tories rural/Labour urban etc) but no longer
I should add, there is a world of difference (not often understood) between the large landowners and the ordinary farmers in this country. Many farmers are also tenants and are continually under the cosh of said landowners which include the Church of England, the Crown, National Trust, The Duke of Westminster, historic estates (eg Goodwood, Duke of Norfolk. Cowdray and Leconfield locally) and some of the biggest financial institutions and pension funds.
 






nicko31

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Farmers who are protesting are definitely not Tory voting! Like much of the rest of society, voting habits are changing. Farmers may well have been historic Tories (Tories rural/Labour urban etc) but no longer
One of the many sacrificial lambs of Brexit.
 




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