[Politics] Donald Trump 2024

Greg Bobkin · Mar 1, 2024

Bodian said:
Looks like he has successfully got some of his cases pushed back till after the election. When he can scrap them (if he wins).

Supreme Court hands Trump a gift

The US supreme court announced Wednesday evening that it will consider Trump’s claim of presidential immunity

www.theguardian.com

I'm not sure they've thought this they've. If they decide that the president can claim immunity, that means that Joe Biden will get away with all the stuff that they've made up, sorry, I mean all the laws he's broken...

Albion my Albion · Mar 1, 2024

A1X said:
Has he had to pay off any more prawn stars lately?

I think you might be a bit confused. He is either paying off prawns

or star fish

he is certainly gill-tee of that.

One Love · Mar 1, 2024

Crawley Dingo said:
he knows Black people because they built his buildings.

Are these the same people that he didn't pay at the end of the job?

I remember seeing a documentary about him before it could be political slurring, in fact at that time he was a Democrat.

Always bumped as many people as he could.

Man of the people LMAO

Zeberdi · Mar 1, 2024

Crawley Dingo said:
His comments quickly drew outrage from the NAACP. "

Whats racist? Its just another DNC grift by self appointed black leaders.

I refer you again to my comments (made long before any media reported him being racist) in response to Trump’s remarks at this event - Some of us don’t actually need the media (whether it’s the right wing or left wing) to point out to us when someone is being racist or not, nor do we need to be black.

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Wow, just wow …

Speaking at an event for black conservatives in South Carolina ahead of Saturday's Republican primary, Trump in an unbridled fit of racial stereotyping compared his being charged with criminal offences to the historic legacy of prejudice against African-Americans in the US legal system. He also said he ‘knew a lot of black people’ because they built his hotels/casinos.

How can he not see how wrong and racist that is on so many levels - yep Trump, your alleged crimes and assaults on women that you are being ‘victimised for’ is comparable to those who have been subjected to appalling institutionalised racism for hundreds of years because of the colour of their skin.
Perhaps the Congressional Black Caucus should be reminded also that Donald Trump actively banned Blacks from renting his properties and was sued for racial discrimination as a consequence and pursued racial prejudicial policies as POTUS ?”

peterward · Mar 1, 2024

In the ridiculous partisan Majorie Taylor Green lead Biden impeachment, whose star witness was busted by FBI as lying, making up his story and colluding with Russian security services.

The republicans still pressed ahead. And today the Democrat Eric Swalwell got to ask Hunter Biden some questions in Congress.

Pure comedy Gold genius.

peterward · Mar 1, 2024

And a bit later on when discussing release of all transcripts, Swalwells last comment is again genius.

Crawley Dingo · Mar 1, 2024

peterward said:
Of course I read it and that's why I posted it.

Trump is saying Black people like him, because he is persecuted and in trouble with the law and equates that to black people.

And the NAACP deem his comments and equivalence to be racist and I totally agree with them.

And here you are, probably white?, clearly a fascist apologist in a whole world of rabbit hole delusion and conspiracy theory quackery, claiming you're actually the moral authority on what is racism towards the black Community over the NAACP?

An appeal to authority fallacy, the NAACP is a Politiclly loaded NGO. You also appear not to know what racism is. i also have not claimed any moral authority so maybe wind your neck in a bit?
Now to your only relevant point.

"Trump is saying Black people like him, because he is persecuted and in trouble with the law and equates that to black people."

Well yes he equates that to black people can relate to someone being prosecuted for no good reason. So how is that racist? Try to answer without smears, jargon and rhetoric if you can.

Crawley Dingo · Mar 1, 2024

To

Zeberdi said:
A racist pedigree I raised last Sunday btw when his remarks were reported in the news (before the Hill picked up on it or the Black Caucus responded) - I called it out then for being shockingly racist but it went under the radar by most people …

[Politics] - Donald Trump 2024

Millions, not billions, although even that is horrendous. I think you missed my attempt at low comedy there :wink:

www.northstandchat.com

What is strange is that you conveniently side stepped my comments last Sunday about Trump being a racist when I backed them up with link reference to Trump refusing to let apartments to blacks in his NYC properties.

Its not strange, I don't read every post in this thread, i made 2 posts the last time I was on here and have 6 responses. This is my second reply on which i have spent 10 minutes reading your link.

""Yes, when I was very young, I went into my father's company — had a real estate company in Brooklyn and Queens," Trump said. "And we, along with many, manyother companies throughout the country — it was a federal lawsuit — were sued. We settled the suit with zero, with no admission of guilt."

This is a reach and proves nothing, it can be countered that trump passed a law getting black men out of jail after Hillarys husband passed a law locking them up, the" Super predators". the fact a company went along with practises to maximise revenue even though it had become illegal and which all companies in the sector where up to. With the fact it ended with no blame shows it was just meant to give a sluggish sector a kick in the butt, If this is the best you can drum up for your propaganda I feel sorry for you.

Zeberdi · Mar 1, 2024

Crawley Dingo said:
To

Its not strange, I don't read every post in this thread, i made 2 posts the last time I was on here and have 6 responses. This is my second reply on which i have spent 10 minutes reading your link.

""Yes, when I was very young, I went into my father's company — had a real estate company in Brooklyn and Queens," Trump said. "And we, along with many, manyother companies throughout the country — it was a federal lawsuit — were sued. We settled the suit with zero, with no admission of guilt."
If this is the best you can drum up for your propaganda I feel sorry for you.

You quoted the link selectively - here’s another selection:

“The Justice Department sued Donald Trump, his father, Fred, and Trump Management in order to obtain a settlement in which Trump and his father would promise not to discriminate. The case eventually was settled two years later after Trump tried to countersue the Justice Department for $100 million for making false statements. Those allegations were dismissed by the court.”

The only reason ‘there was no blame’ was because rather than go to court, Trump agreed to settle ‘without prejudice’.

I don’t need to ‘drum up propaganda’ to try and prove Trump is a racist, it comes directly out of his mouth - he is his own worst enemy!

BadFish · Mar 1, 2024

It's like trying to discuss the finer points of renaissance art with a badger.

Although badgers are well know to be able to cope with up to 8 replies to their points.

peterward · Mar 1, 2024

Crawley Dingo said:
An appeal to authority fallacy, the NAACP is a Politiclly loaded NGO. You also appear not to know what racism is. i also have not claimed any moral authority so maybe wind your neck in a bit?
Now to your only relevant point.

"Trump is saying Black people like him, because he is persecuted and in trouble with the law and equates that to black people."

Well yes he equates that to black people can relate to someone being prosecuted for no good reason. So how is that racist? Try to answer without smears, jargon and rhetoric if you can.

"An appeal to authority fallacy"
"the NAACP is a Politiclly loaded NGO"
"You also appear not to know what racism is"

Oh the irony.

Yes you did try and claim the moral authority on what the definition of racism is, and you do so by trying to undermine, belittle and denigrate the views of a black majority anti racist political movement who themselves as Black people said Trumps remarks are racist, and toss them out and instead supplant your own definitions as a most likely a white? pro Trump fanboy.

No Trump didnt just say that to equate to Black people being persecuted for no good reason. Trump is being legally prosecuted for very valid reasons as hes broken the law on numerous counts. Trump is implying that Black people should know what that feels like.

The criminal justice system has been unfair and prejudiced Black people it hasnt Trump who is already convicted on some counts for his actual crimes, there is no equivalence.

The same Trump that quoted black people as working on his house? why?

The same Trump that sat down with white supremacists the day after getting the 2016 nomination.

This Donald Trump

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/us/politics/donald-trump-housing-race.html

or this Donald Trump

Trump Attacks On Asian Americans Not Only 'Repugnant,' But 'Politically Stupid': Columnist

Republicans are dim, too, if they don't rein in Trump, whose "animus is almost pathological," warns Bloomberg's Robert A. George.

news.yahoo.com

Or a nice little round up through the years of this Donald Trump

Donald Trump’s long history of racism, from the 1970s to 2020

Trump has repeatedly claimed he’s "the least racist person." His history suggests otherwise.

www.vox.com

Who just said this?

“They’re coming from Asia, they’re coming from the Middle East, coming from all over the world, coming from Africa, and we’re not going to stand for it. They’re destroying our country,” he said. “We have languages coming into our country … they have languages that nobody in this country has ever heard of. It’s a horrible thing.”

So everyone from Asia or Africa are destoying the country? and that isnt racism? You explain how a comment like that is different to saying generalist tropes like "All jews........" or "Jewish people........."

And you actually believe the Tangerine Mussolini really cares about Christian issues or border security?

Did you ever once consider he does nothing more than offer up red meat to feed the prejudices of those within his caucus just to gain power, race baiting and demonising everyone from 2 continents with racist tropes as it will appeal to the racists and white supremacists who will vote Trump? Lest you forget Trumps largest demographic group is white, uneducated and without college degree.

Words are cheap even more so out of the mouth of a serial bullshitter and power crazed grifter, always look at the actions......

though I realise its all lost on you, you've likely gone past the point of objective fact based reasoning and are all in on the post truth alternative universe.

@Crawley Dingo rather than double down on being living testimony that disinformation works. Actually pause and engage your brain.

Is that 1-1 on smears?

Crawley Dingo · Mar 2, 2024

peterward said:
"An appeal to authority fallacy"
"the NAACP is a Politiclly loaded NGO"
"You also appear not to know what racism is"

Oh the irony.

Yes you did try and claim the moral authority on what the definition of racism is, and you do so by trying to undermine, belittle and denigrate the views of a black majority anti racist political movement who themselves as Black people said Trumps remarks are racist, and toss them out and instead supplant your own definitions as a most likely a white? pro Trump fanboy.

No Trump didnt just say that to equate to Black people being persecuted for no good reason. Trump is being legally prosecuted for very valid reasons as hes broken the law on numerous counts. Trump is implying that Black people should know what that feels like.

The criminal justice system has been unfair and prejudiced Black people it hasnt Trump who is already convicted on some counts for his actual crimes, there is no equivalence.

The same Trump that quoted black people as working on his house? why?

The same Trump that sat down with white supremacists the day after getting the 2016 nomination.

This Donald Trump

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/us/politics/donald-trump-housing-race.html

or this Donald Trump

Trump Attacks On Asian Americans Not Only 'Repugnant,' But 'Politically Stupid': Columnist

Republicans are dim, too, if they don't rein in Trump, whose "animus is almost pathological," warns Bloomberg's Robert A. George.

news.yahoo.com

Or a nice little round up through the years of this Donald Trump

Donald Trump’s long history of racism, from the 1970s to 2020

Trump has repeatedly claimed he’s "the least racist person." His history suggests otherwise.

www.vox.com

Who just said this?

“They’re coming from Asia, they’re coming from the Middle East, coming from all over the world, coming from Africa, and we’re not going to stand for it. They’re destroying our country,” he said. “We have languages coming into our country … they have languages that nobody in this country has ever heard of. It’s a horrible thing.”

peterward said:

"An appeal to authority fallacy"
"the NAACP is a Politiclly loaded NGO"
"You also appear not to know what racism is"

Oh the irony.

Yes you did try and claim the moral authority on what the definition of racism is, and you do so by trying to undermine, belittle and denigrate the views of a black majority anti racist political movement who themselves as Black people said Trumps remarks are racist, and toss them out and instead supplant your own definitions as a most likely a white? pro Trump fanboy.

No Trump didnt just say that to equate to Black people being persecuted for no good reason. Trump is being legally prosecuted for very valid reasons as hes broken the law on numerous counts. Trump is implying that Black people should know what that feels like.

The criminal justice system has been unfair and prejudiced Black people it hasnt Trump who is already convicted on some counts for his actual crimes, there is no equivalence.

The same Trump that quoted black people as working on his house? why?

The same Trump that sat down with white supremacists the day after getting the 2016 nomination.

This Donald Trump

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/us/politics/donald-trump-housing-race.html

or this Donald Trump

Trump Attacks On Asian Americans Not Only 'Repugnant,' But 'Politically Stupid': Columnist

Republicans are dim, too, if they don't rein in Trump, whose "animus is almost pathological," warns Bloomberg's Robert A. George.

news.yahoo.com

Or a nice little round up through the years of this Donald Trump

Donald Trump’s long history of racism, from the 1970s to 2020

Trump has repeatedly claimed he’s "the least racist person." His history suggests otherwise.

www.vox.com

Who just said this?

“They’re coming from Asia, they’re coming from the Middle East, coming from all over the world, coming from Africa, and we’re not going to stand for it. They’re destroying our country,” he said. “We have languages coming into our country … they have languages that nobody in this country has ever heard of. It’s a horrible thing.”

So everyone from Asia or Africa are destoying the country? and that isnt racism? You explain how a comment like that is different to saying generalist tropes like "All jews........" or "Jewish people........."

And you actually believe the Tangerine Mussolini really cares about Christian issues or border security?

Did you ever once consider he does nothing more than offer up red meat to feed the prejudices of those within his caucus just to gain power, race baiting and demonising everyone from 2 continents with racist tropes as it will appeal to the racists and white supremacists who will vote Trump? Lest you forget Trumps largest demographic group is white, uneducated and without college degree.

Words are cheap even more so out of the mouth of a serial bullshitter and power crazed grifter, always look at the actions......

though I realise its all lost on you, you've likely gone past the point of objective fact based reasoning and are all in on the post truth alternative universe.

@Crawley Dingo rather than double down on being living testimony that disinformation works. Actually pause and engage your brain.

Is that 1-1 on smears?

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So everyone from Asia or Africa are destoying the country? and that isnt racism? You explain how a comment like that is different to saying generalist tropes like "All jews........" or "Jewish people........."

And you actually believe the Tangerine Mussolini really cares about Christian issues or border security?

Did you ever once consider he does nothing more than offer up red meat to feed the prejudices of those within his caucus just to gain power, race baiting and demonising everyone from 2 continents with racist tropes as it will appeal to the racists and white supremacists who will vote Trump? Lest you forget Trumps largest demographic group is white, uneducated and without college degree.

Words are cheap even more so out of the mouth of a serial bullshitter and power crazed grifter, always look at the actions......

though I realise its all lost on you, you've likely gone past the point of objective fact based reasoning and are all in on the post truth alternative universe.

@Crawley Dingo rather than double down on being living testimony that disinformation works. Actually pause and engage your brain.

Is that 1-1 on smears?

You are becoming even more abusive and demented.

NY times article is behind paywall so copy paste.

“They’re coming from Asia, they’re coming from the Middle East, coming from all over the world, coming from Africa, and we’re not going to stand for it. They’re destroying our country,” he said. “We have languages coming into our country … they have languages that nobody in this country has ever heard of. It’s a horrible thing.”

This isn't racist, he is saying that the imported voters are likely to destabilise the USA, the imported voters by numbers add up to 14 congressional seats. This is why immigration control is being ratcheted up the agenda and to an extent always have been.

I could provide at least 3 videos of Biden making racist remarks, you haven't provided anything other than hearsay and innuendo from leftist rags.

Its a mixture of confirmation bias, bad faith and Trump derangement syndrome you need to get out and get some air..

Crawley Dingo · Mar 2, 2024

Zeberdi said:
I don’t need to ‘drum up propaganda’ to try and prove Trump is a racist, it comes directly out of his mouth - he is his own worst enemy!

See my post above, i could provide half a dozen videos of Hillary, Biden making racist remarks but so far you've been unable to provide one. Just historical innuendo.

Bodian · Mar 2, 2024

Crawley Dingo said:
See my post above, i could provide half a dozen videos of Hillary, Biden making racist remarks but so far you've been unable to provide one. Just historical innuendo.

Crawley Dingo said:
I could provide at least 3 videos of Biden making racist remarks, you haven't provided anything other than hearsay and innuendo from leftist rags.

Please do so, then we can judge for ourselves. Thanks.

Zeberdi · Mar 2, 2024

Crawley Dingo said:
See my post above, i could provide half a dozen videos of Hillary, Biden making racist remarks but so far you've been unable to provide one. Just historical innuendo.

It is not innuendo ffs - nor is it historical- I will remind you again of my post last week which started all this:

Zeberdi said:
Wow, just wow …

Speaking at an event for black conservatives in South Carolina ahead of Saturday's Republican primary, Trump in an unbridled fit of racial stereotyping compared his being charged with criminal offences to the historic legacy of prejudice against African-Americans in the US legal system. He also said he ‘knew a lot of black people’ because they built his hotels/casinos.

How can he not see how wrong and racist that is on so many levels - yep Trump, your alleged crimes and assaults on women that you are being ‘victimised for’ is comparable to those who have been subjected to appalling institutionalised racism for hundreds of years because of the colour of their skin.

Donald Trump says his four criminal cases have boosted his support among black people

The former US president was speaking in South Carolina ahead of Saturday's Republican primary when he also claimed black Americans had "embraced" his mugshot.

news.sky.com

This story that I initially quoted above of an event Trump attended last week was subsequently picked up on by various media outlets as an example of Trump’s racist views, leading to a week of media backlashes against Trump, which were also subsequently quoted by other people on here. I was not alone in seeing his comments as racist it turns out but I certainly reacted to his remarks as racist independent of any media outlet to tell me what to think.

Bodian · Mar 2, 2024

Zeberdi said:
It is not innuendo ffs - nor is it historical- I will remind you again of my post last week which started all this:

This story that I initially quoted above of an event Trump attended last week was subsequently picked up on by various media outlets as an example of Trump’s racist views, leading to a week of media backlashes against Trump, which were also subsequently quoted by other people on here. I was not alone in seeing his comments as racist it turns out but I certainly reacted to his remarks as racist independent of any media outlet to tell me what to think.

Ah yes - but they'll just tell you that you have been so brainwashed and pre-conditioned by the MSM to think this way about Trump that they no longer have to guide you, and you can misinterpret everything he says on your own now!

Zeberdi · Mar 2, 2024

Bodian said:
Ah yes - but they'll just tell you that you have been so brainwashed and pre-conditioned by the MSM to think this way about Trump that they no longer have to guide you, and you can misinterpret everything he says on your own now!

I don’t think anyone who has read the Israel/Hamas thread could possibly accuse me of lacking independence of thought on NSC or being influenced by the MSM (the very opposite!) more likely CD will accuse me of generating fake news content on social media platforms to turn gullible unsuspecting innocents against DT. :lol:

NooBHA · Mar 2, 2024

The person who has studied Donald Trump the most is David Cay Johnston. Just watch any of his YouTube videos on Trump and he will clear up any doubts anyone has on Trumps position on Racism and any other subject about him for that matter

Stat Brother · Mar 2, 2024

NooBHA said:
The person who has studied Donald Trump the most is David Cay Johnston. Just watch any of his YouTube videos on Trump and he will clear up any doubts anyone has on Trumps position on Racism and any other subject about him for that matter

Trump paid for a full page ad demanding 6 innocent black men be sentenced to death.
He's never apologised.

NooBHA · Mar 2, 2024

Stat Brother said:
Trump paid for a full page ad demanding 6 innocent black men be sentenced to death.
He's never apologised.

I know Johnston goes into all that. He knows everything on Trump. He even clears up the misconceptions that Trump has several times declared himself bankrupt. He actually has never personally declared himself bankrupt. His Organisations have several times filed for Bankruptcy but personally he hasn't.

Johnston knows everything about Trump. So much so that Trump refers to him as " The Weird Guy " He has threaten to sue Johnston a dozen times and Johnston just says to him. " Bring it on " because he never writes or says anything about Trump thate he doesn't have the goods on.

So much so that he even tells a story about a Public meeting with the Japanese Prime Minister and Trump at a Trump hotel where they set out two glasses of water to take the photo. And the Trump former Hotel in Washington charged the US Treasury Seven Dollars and 50 cents. He even has a copy of that receipt.

His knowledge on Trump is phenomenal. And he isn't kind at all about him. He makes it clear that Trump is Racist as was his father and his Grandfather was a Pimp. And he has the back up for everything he says. That's why Trump has never sued Johnson despite being the most litigant person in history. Johnston knows he can back up everything he says with facts. That's why I suggested in my post to watch some of his lengthy videos on Trump.

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