[Politics] Brexit

[5ways]

Conveniently didn't say that though did you?

I did however link a picture of the front page and the leader article.

 

[The Rivet]

Ok 5ways..................

 

[5ways]

Here is the full text of The Times leader. It is an excellent, thoughtful and well-written piece and I urge everyone to read it.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/r...w?shareToken=1516717a913edfa20d09f27f111bdfe2

 

[Bold Seagull]

That's weak, even by your normal weak standards.

You say that the EU protects workers rights, I challenge that on basis that a) British workers fought for protection before the EU, and b) the EU is pissing all over workers in parts of the EU......currently in France.

You can't dispute either point, so provide a glib response.......that's cool by me.

But what I don't understand with you and others, is why you persist with the belief that the EU is not a capitalist dream........you clearly want to remain in the EU, along with Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan and Sir Philip Green.

They really don't give a flying fvck about workers rights or socialist principles such as common ownership.........nor does the EU. You have fully embraced the EU on this basis, so why be coy about it.........c'mon you Tory shill, let it out. VOTE IN, VOTE TORY.

So weak I get another 4 paragraphs of your soapboxing!

 

[The Rivet]

So weak I get another 4 paragraphs of your soapboxing!

Doesn't come across like that to me! I would go so far as to say less vocal members of this forum will agree with him not you. He states rational arguments and facts yet you resort to waffle and insults. That's my view and maybe a lot of others but, hey ho, you have your supporters too. Worryingly.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

I'm sure no one with any sense of decency or self respect would want to exploit the tragic death of the MP for use in the referendum although some did and are trying to do that on the RIP Jo Cox thread.

The Times is reflecting it's readership's views as was the Sun. I wonder where all the sneering posts about Murdoch's mouthpiece are from some of the Remain crowd ... double helping of hypocrisy anyone?

 

[Maldini]

I'm sure no one with any sense of decency or self respect would want to exploit the tragic death of the MP for use in the referendum although some did and are trying to do that on the RIP Jo Cox thread.

The Times is reflecting it's readership's views as was the Sun. I wonder where all the sneering posts about Murdoch's mouthpiece are from some of the Remain crowd ... double helping of hypocrisy anyone?

I've assumed that some will vote Remain based on what happened.

As for the Times,I believe the readership of The Sun dwarfs it so it is far more important.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Doesn't come across like that to me! I would go so far as to say less vocal members of this forum will agree with him not you. He states rational arguments and facts yet you resort to waffle and insults. That's my view and maybe a lot of others but, hey ho, you have your supporters too. Worryingly.

So I get told I'm a fool and spouting nonsense, and I'm the one throwing insults?

Where have I even insulted him!? I called him a politician!!

Yeah whatever.

 

[The Rivet]

I'm sure no one with any sense of decency or self respect would want to exploit the tragic death of the MP for use in the referendum although some did and are trying to do that on the RIP Jo Cox thread.

The Times is reflecting it's readership's views as was the Sun. I wonder where all the sneering posts about Murdoch's mouthpiece are from some of the Remain crowd ... double helping of hypocrisy anyone?

Also Newsnight tonight. They are already positioning themselves for when the 'gloves' come off again. It is already being exploited. You'd have to be either overly emotional (clouding judgment) or blind not to see it! (apologies to the blind).

 

[The Rivet]

So I get told I'm a fool and spouting nonsense, and I'm the one throwing insults?

Where have I even insulted him!? I called him a politician!!

Yeah whatever.

No, no insult. Just plain English language.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Also Newsnight tonight. They are already positioning themselves for when the 'gloves' come off again. It is already being exploited. You'd have to be either overly emotional (clouding judgment) or blind not to see it! (apologies to the blind).

That may well be the case I haven't seen Newsnight but anyone who has, is or intends to crowbar this into the campaign is as previously described.

 

[The Rivet]

That may well be the case I haven't seen Newsnight but anyone who has, is or intends to crowbar this into the campaign is as previously described.

I gave you a thumbs up but, they still will though. Note that this forum is representative, it has already cropped up here.

 

[East Preston Gull]

Also Newsnight tonight. They are already positioning themselves for when the 'gloves' come off again. It is already being exploited. You'd have to be either overly emotional (clouding judgment) or blind not to see it! (apologies to the blind).

Unfortunately this, Sadiq Khan and Polly toynbee already insinuating that the immigration subject is poisonous. Gordon Brown is speaking in the Guardian tomorrow and we can assume that the Leave campaign will be held responsible for the death of Councillor Cox. Democracy and Political point scoring will start again tomorrow and we can all get back to battle.
What a sad debacle this has all become.

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[jakarta]

Here is the full text of The Times leader. It is an excellent, thoughtful and well-written piece and I urge everyone to read it.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/r...w?shareToken=1516717a913edfa20d09f27f111bdfe2

Have you seen most of the comments posted under it? Seeing as it was a (limp) call to Remain it obviously didn't go all that well.....

 

[JC Footy Genius]

I gave you a thumbs up but, they still will though. Note that this forum is representative, it has already cropped up here.

I'm sure there are many itching to exploit this tragedy but I hope we are proved wrong ...naive, probably ... wishful thinking, almost certainly.

 

[Maldini]

It would be tragic if the killing had a big impact on the vote.Going by the wall to wall hysterical coverage of what happened it has the possibility to have a significant impact if voters don't realise that this guy had mental issues.No-one can be held accountable for what happened other than the nutter.The next polls will tell us if it has had an impact.

It's one thing for the vote to be won by Remain based on Project Fear or whatever else they come out with but it is a serious blow for democracy if what happened swings the vote.

 

[The Rivet]

I re-iterate, having watched NEWSNIGHT again, on record, it is giving voice to political positioning re the murder of our MP. Seriously bad. That's the reality though I guess. RIP Jo

 

[The Rivet]

Ok Bed time!
Looking forward to Independence day.

 

[Maldini]

Looking forward to Independence day.

Me too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfJgT89hEME

 

[pastafarian]

England 2018.

you are not the first to portray this scenario and im sure you wont be the last.

You can read it on here,hear it in TV debates,listen to it on the radio.
just today on the radio a young lad was saying he thought it was unfair that brexit people wanted to stop him from ever visiting Europe.he thought young people should be allowed to go on holiday to europe as further away was more expensive.
How do you even answer that higher level of moron?
"turkish go home" "no more immigrants".......bit stereotypical pathetic really
I cant stop you and others being stupid and believing this claptrap so i guess have fun spreading the message with your silly pictures.