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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
In 2008 it was around 1.14 for ages-exchange rates fluctuate all the time
 








5ways

Well-known member
Sep 18, 2012
2,217
Talk to me about jobs.Talk to me about new jobs being created which are then taken by immigrants.

Which is why unemployment is at record lows and investment is high? Which is why since joining the EU we've got from being poorer than France and Italy to being richer than both? and projected to grow faster than any other European economy?
 


Soulman

New member
Oct 22, 2012
10,966
Sompting
Noel's in favour of Brexit.



“I ask myself what they’re going to do so it doesn’t happen again, why those terrorists were able to get into a car full of explosives, cross three borders and then escape.

“I would set up some nice border controls and find out who these people are and what they’re doing there.”

He also said he was in favour of Brexit."

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/showbiz/506920/Noel-Gallagher-IS-islamic-terrorsits-killed
 




JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
Not according to JC Footy Genius. He seems to think we'll have a more competitive pound which would help exports. I presume that means the value will drop against other currencies. Of course, if correct, that means imports are considerably more expensive!!!

Ahem .. as much as I appreciate your attempt to portray me as some sort of authoritative source you will please note the question mark at the end of that comment. I was responding to a hypothetical suggestion the pound would be weaker. My opinions of doomsday Brexit economic forecasts are well known and summarised as .. :shit:
 


Maldini

Banned
Aug 19, 2015
927
Which is why unemployment is at record lows and investment is high? Which is why since joining the EU we've got from being poorer than France and Italy to being richer than both? and projected to grow faster than any other European economy?

It was years ago we were poorer than Italy.

The way of counting the unemployed has been changed many times over the years to keep bringing the figures down so it's impossible to make a fair comparison with figures from other years.
There is no way of no-one if the jobs were created due to us being in the EU but if there were then most are taken by foreign workers.
 






D

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It was years ago we were poorer than Italy.

The way of counting the unemployed has been changed many times over the years to keep bringing the figures down so it's impossible to make a fair comparison with figures from other years.
There is no way of no-one if the jobs were created due to us being in the EU but if there were then most are taken by foreign workers.

Your right, my relatives in Southern Italy enjoyed a very good standard of living before the Euro was introduced, after that it slowly started going downhill. As my cousin put it to my mum over the phone a few months back, they are about to eat the plaster off the walls.

Not only has Southern Italy had to put up with uncontrolled migration never seen before, they are also in the pockets of the EU with absolutely no escape.
 
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Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
59,654
The Fatherland
Did you need a visa to enter France from the UK prior to us joining the EEC then ?

I certainly remember having to get paperwork when I was a young child.
 


D

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I certainly remember having to get paperwork when I was a young child.

In the grand scale of things doing a little bit of paperwork is not the end of the world is it. I will still be able to visit France, I will still be able to buy French Cheese and Wines, nobody is going to turn away business, and supermarkets like Lidl in the UK will still be bringing products in from Germany.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
59,654
The Fatherland


Herr Tubthumper

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In the grand scale of things doing a little bit of paperwork is not the end of the world is it. I will still be able to visit France, I will still be able to buy French Cheese and Wines, nobody is going to turn away business, and supermarkets like Lidl in the UK will still be bringing products in from Germany.

To you maybe not. But to some it is. And this nonsense soon starts to mount up. Maybe you guys are used to all the little stupid hurdles put in your way at every opportunity? I prefer an easier and smother life. My trip to London being a case in point; huge queues at Gatwick, barriers everywhere, touch in, touch out (what a ludicrous system?), mind the gap, touch in, touch out.mCompare it to here where I get off the plane, walk straight to train, buy a ticket on my phone and never ever have to think about my ticket again as the whole train system is barrier free. Sorry, but I can't be arsed with all this crap.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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In the grand scale of things doing a little bit of paperwork is not the end of the world is it. I will still be able to visit France, I will still be able to buy French Cheese and Wines, nobody is going to turn away business, and supermarkets like Lidl in the UK will still be bringing products in from Germany.

And I really can't get my head around this touch in touch out nonsense. It works in zone 1 but when you're going from DLR to that orange line it's utterly ridiculous as the stations are more open and it's never obvious if you need to leave one, entered another or whatever. It's stupid.
 








D

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And I really can't get my head around this touch in touch out nonsense. It works in zone 1 but when you're going from DLR to that orange line it's utterly ridiculous as the stations are more open and it's never obvious if you need to leave one, entered another or whatever. It's stupid.

This is more to do with our own transport system. I think it does highlight one issue, how over populated we are and how our own transport system is creaking at the seams. Not like Germany where you have tons more space to build a superfast train ICE network.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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This is more to do with our own transport system. I think it does highlight one issue, how over populated we are and how our own transport system is creaking at the seams. Not like Germany where you have tons more space to build a superfast train ICE network.

My gripe is ticketing, barriers, the ticket machines, and the very clear lack of integration of systems and processes. This has nothing to do with over population, nothing to do with Germany versus UK; more a mind set of the knobs who set this crap up.
 




Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
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Oct 27, 2003
21,044
The arse end of Hangleton
To you maybe not. But to some it is. And this nonsense soon starts to mount up. Maybe you guys are used to all the little stupid hurdles put in your way at every opportunity? I prefer an easier and smother life. My trip to London being a case in point; huge queues at Gatwick, barriers everywhere, touch in, touch out (what a ludicrous system?), mind the gap, touch in, touch out.mCompare it to here where I get off the plane, walk straight to train, buy a ticket on my phone and never ever have to think about my ticket again as the whole train system is barrier free. Sorry, but I can't be arsed with all this crap.

Not really a decent reason to vote in. Reminds me of those that argued joining the Euro would be a good idea because it would mean not having the hassle of changing money when they went on holiday.
 


Maldini

Banned
Aug 19, 2015
927
Your right, my relatives in Southern Italy enjoyed a very good standard of living before the Euro was introduced, after that it slowly started going downhill. As my cousin put it to my mum over the phone a few months back, they are about to eat the plaster off the walls.

Not only has Southern Italy had to put up with uncontrolled migration never seen before, they are also in the pockets of the EU with absolutely no escape.

I also have relatives in southern italy.

I know a couple of italian/english guys,born in the UK and lived in southern italy for years.The've recently come back.One because he says there is no work and another because the taxes are now sky high.I know plenty of young italians coming here for work.London is like little Italy. Italy def is in a bad way like Spain and Greece.

So much for the EU.

I wonder how the remain camp would vote if Cameron said we would be joining the Euro.We can all imagine how the voting would then go on June 23rd.Cameron has failed to negotiate changes,ie,he's not happy with an organisation he wants us to stay in.

In the same way that project fear is working here it will be used by Merkel,the leader of the european superstate to bully us into more integration into the EU in the future.
We will one day have to join the failed Euro project.
 


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