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Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
31,412
Uffern
What's wrong with Richard? I know very few who get called Dick.

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ofco8

Well-known member
May 18, 2007
2,390
Brighton
Strange that all the shortened names have virtually disappeared.

William/Bill, now all called Will.

Robert/Bob, now all called Rob.

James/Jim, now called Jamie.
 


Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
31,412
Uffern
Strange that all the shortened names have virtually disappeared.

William/Bill, now all called Will.

Robert/Bob, now all called Rob.

James/Jim, now called Jamie.

What I find strange is that shortened and derivation names are now the norm. So, we see kids called Ben and Ollie, rather than Benjamin and Oliver. Or Jack and Harry rather than John and Henry. When did that happen?
 




BensGrandad

New member
Jul 13, 2003
72,015
Haywards Heath
What I find strange is that shortened and derivation names are now the norm. So, we see kids called Ben and Ollie, rather than Benjamin and Oliver. Or Jack and Harry rather than John and Henry. When did that happen?

I said similar to my son and daughter in law who insisted they wanted their son named Jack had they wanted it to be John they would have named him John. Another example of the age thing I think.
 


ofco8

Well-known member
May 18, 2007
2,390
Brighton
What I find strange is that shortened and derivation names are now the norm. So, we see kids called Ben and Ollie, rather than Benjamin and Oliver. Or Jack and Harry rather than John and Henry. When did that happen?

You are right. I meant to say the old shortened names have virtually disappeared. Another being Edward/Ted, now generally Ed or Eddie.
 






Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
31,412
Uffern
You are right. I meant to say the old shortened names have virtually disappeared. Another being Edward/Ted, now generally Ed or Eddie.

There's a Ted at my son's rugby club. I'm going to try to find out if he's an Edward or actually named Ted.

My son's called John and is just known as that, but my grandfather was John but called Jack by everyone. So, some time in the last 80 years, Jack became a name in its own right. No idea why though
 


Garry Nelson's Left Foot

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
13,186
tokyo
What I find strange is that shortened and derivation names are now the norm. So, we see kids called Ben and Ollie, rather than Benjamin and Oliver. Or Jack and Harry rather than John and Henry. When did that happen?

My cousins are called Jack and Harry, so since the early/mid 80's at least.

On a similar theme, why were John and Henry ever changed to Jack and Harry? They haven't shortened the name and have no resemblance to the original name. Likewise Why was William shortened to Bill and not Will, Edward to Ted not Ed, Michael to Mick not Mike, Robert to Bob not Rob etc etc?
 


dazzer6666

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NSC Patron
Mar 27, 2013
52,935
Burgess Hill
My cousins are called Jack and Harry, so since the early/mid 80's at least.

On a similar theme, why were John and Henry ever changed to Jack and Harry? They haven't shortened the name and have no resemblance to the original name. Likewise Why was William shortened to Bill and not Will, Edward to Ted not Ed, Michael to Mick not Mike, Robert to Bob not Rob etc etc?

I've never understood 'Henry' to 'Harry' - surely 'Harry' would be from 'Harold' ?? Regarding Jack, my grandfather was christened Jack (1920s), not John.
 








surrey jim

Not in Surrey
Aug 2, 2005
18,107
Bevendean
Strange that all the shortened names have virtually disappeared.

William/Bill, now all called Will.

Robert/Bob, now all called Rob.

James/Jim, now called Jamie.

An outrage
 
















Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
72,037
Living In a Box
Absurd decision in my view but hey ho I am not the chairman
 


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