Stockdale or Walton

[Mowgli37]

Let Stockdale go for free. Waste of £2m. Walton is 10 times better.

Good thing we didn't pay £2 million then.

 

[garethjamesuk]

Stockdale is our No.1 'keeper and will be for a few years yet. And rightly so. I can't quite believe this is up for discussion. In the 38 games I saw this season I cannot think of one occasion where I thought his inclusion on the teamsheet made me feel uneasy. Stockdale is a marvellous goalie and we are lucky to have him here.
Walton is one for the future, I trust the club to nurture his progress

That be a great idea to play a average keeper for few years and lose a keeper that has better potential and properly even better than stockdale now, wow, what a great way to use the youth system lol.

 

[Knotty]

Yeah all 3 of them made great goalkeepers lol

Hilarious! You know exactly what I meant. And there are many top goalkeepers who have been on loan to further their progress.

 

[c0lz]

Hilarious! You know exactly what I meant. And there are many top goalkeepers who have been on loan to further their progress.

Well you obviously think it will it will improve him and I think it will hinder him .

 

[Working class pride]

Walton did well at spurs and has not put a foot wrong. Stockdale is a keeper who has been accident prone. Problem is someone decided to speend money on stockdale. The plan might be tio send Walton on loan to then get him back but I fear another Brighton coaching disaster to add to the list of Wright, Keane, Murray and the two local kids who have just won promotion to the premier league with Bournemouth

 

[BensGrandad]

I am not sure that Walton is ready for week in week out playing in The Championship where he is under scrutiny from any mistake. Although I was not impressed by his many mistakes last season I think that DS will come good next season and the way forward is to send Walton out on loan to a div 1 side. It must be remembered that most of DS mistakes, which got the crowds on his back, was when he first arrived and having worked with Niemi he has improved. His major problem seems to be with decision making when to come when to stay and lining up the wall but it will come and improve next season.

 

[Working class pride]

I am not sure that Walton is ready for week in week out playing in The Championship where he is under scrutiny from any mistake. Although I was not impressed by his many mistakes last season I think that DS will come good next season and the way forward is to send Walton out on loan to a div 1 side. It must be remembered that most of DS mistakes, which got the crowds on his back, was when he first arrived and having worked with Niemi he has improved. His major problem seems to be with decision making when to come when to stay and lining up the wall but it will come and improve next season.

He made plenty of mistakes after xmas as well. If we lose Walton for Stockdale then its another classic brighton coaching disaster

 

[Finchley Seagull]

I really hope we loan out Walton to get him away from the spotlight of our so called fans. A couple of years ago I remember the same criticism of Poyet for not playing Forster-Caskey, who was amazing according to NSC. Look at him now and the abuse he gets on here. Simple fact is that, while Walton is very popular with fans at the moment (mainly because they don't like Stockdale), if he makes a couple of mistakes, he'll be crucified on here. And, as a young goalkeeper, he will make mistakes. So better for him to make them for another club and come back to Brighton in a year's time having shown he can be a first choice keeper.

 

[Finchley Seagull]

He made plenty of mistakes after xmas as well. If we lose Walton for Stockdale then its another classic brighton coaching disaster

What a pathetic comment. We're loaning him out to improve him and get him experience. How's that suggest we're going to lose him.

What the anti Stockdale crowd forget is that he won us a number of matches with great performances (Fulham away, Birmingham home and Derby home off the top of my head). When you consider how few games we won this season, that's already quite a lot.

 

[BensGrandad]

He made plenty of mistakes after xmas as well. If we lose Walton for Stockdale then its another classic brighton coaching disaster

The only way that will happen is if a 'big' club offers big money as he is our most valuable asset. I think a club like Arsenal will be keeping an eye on him and possibly come in with a£ £2 or £3m bid. We have no other player anywhere near approaching that If we sold DS we would never get our money back so need to stick with him or swallow the cost. and sell him but I cant seee tb doing that unless CH has lost faith in him.

 

[NooBHA]

Good thing we didn't pay £2 million then.

I don't think we actually know whether Walton is better or not but the last game of the season gave you an indication that he is looking for an alternative to Stockdale

 

[Finchley Seagull]

I don't think we actually know whether Walton is better or not but the last game of the season gave you an indication that he is looking for an alternative to Stockdale

No, it doesn't. It shows he wanted to give a game to a young goalkeeper who had only played two first team games before.

 

[Working class pride]

I really hope we loan out Walton to get him away from the spotlight of our so called fans. A couple of years ago I remember the same criticism of Poyet for not playing Forster-Caskey, who was amazing according to NSC. Look at him now and the abuse he gets on here. Simple fact is that, while Walton is very popular with fans at the moment (mainly because they don't like Stockdale), if he makes a couple of mistakes, he'll be crucified on here. And, as a young goalkeeper, he will make mistakes. So better for him to make them for another club and come back to Brighton in a year's time having shown he can be a first choice keeper.

You have a superiority complex over your fellow fans. Im proud of our support now as I was in the Archer years.People saw the mistakes of Stockdale and the disaster of last summer in all depertments. Like fans up and down the country them commented on it. The problem is the coaching footballing failures at the club and losing Walton for Stockdale has all the hallmarks of yet another one. CMS for Murray, Penney over Ian Wright, the lads at Bournemouth, its not new, this club has a great history of failure. Stockdale and lose Walton? We just fear yet another Albion coaching disaster.

 

[NooBHA]

No, it doesn't. It shows he wanted to give a game to a young goalkeeper who had only played two first team games before.[/Q

HE IS LOKKING FOR AN ALTERNATIVE - I know that from something that was said to me after a game near the end of season from not quite the horses mouth but near enough

 

[Finchley Seagull]

You have a superiority complex over your fellow fans. Im proud of our support now as I was in the Archer years.People saw the mistakes of Stockdale and the disaster of last summer in all depertments. Like fans up and down the country them commented on it. The problem is the coaching footballing failures at the club and losing Walton for Stockdale has all the hallmarks of yet another one. CMS for Murray, Penney over Ian Wright, the lads at Bournemouth, its not new, this club has a great history of failure. Stockdale and lose Walton? We just fear yet another Albion coaching disaster.

Except you are so boring. You spend all your time moaning. Nobody thought Elphick was going to develop into a Championship winning defender. Nobody questioned him leaving at the time. Cook (as I said in reply to your thread last week) seems to have forced us into a corner to sell him. Or are you suggesting we should have promoted him above El Abd, Greer and then Upson, who went on to be the best and then second best defence in the league over the last two seasons. Murray was a mistake but all teams make them.

This doesn't have any hallmarks of anything. What in my post isn't true. Poyet did get a lot of stick for not playing Forster-Caskey more and now look at the abuse one of our young players, brought up through the ranks, gets on here and at games. It is better to take Walton out of the firing line and send him out on loan for a season. He still has three years on his contract so there's no chance of us losing him cheaply at the moment but he needs games and experience. I really don't see what you have to moan about in this situation except you always like to moan.

 

[BensGrandad]

Why do people keep quoting losing Wright and Keane they were decisions made by the manager at the time on advice from his scouting team. These people have changed and mistakes will be made. As regards Elphick and Cook neither were in contention for a first team place and it could never have been seen that Elphick would fully recover from his long term injury, many havent. No manager can ever expect to not make mistakes in buying and selling as Sir Alex has shown. The only manager I can remember who sold players who never went on to better things, that I can think of is George Graham at Arsenal.and even he may have but I cant think of any.

 

[Finchley Seagull]

No, it doesn't. It shows he wanted to give a game to a young goalkeeper who had only played two first team games before.[/Q

HE IS LOKKING FOR AN ALTERNATIVE - I know that from something that was said to me after a game near the end of season from not quite the horses mouth but near enough

That's not the same thing. You said playing Walton told you that. This is not true. If you've heard it from another source, then fair enough but Walton playing the last game of the season is not relevant.

 

[Finchley Seagull]

Why do people keep quoting losing Wright and Keane they were decisions made by the manager at the time on advice from his scouting team. These people have changed and mistakes will be made. As regards Elphick and Cook neither were in contention for a first team place and it could never have been seen that Elphick would fully recover from his long term injury, many havent. No manager can ever expect to not make mistakes in buying and selling as Sir Alex has shown. The only manager I can remember who sold players who never went on to better things, that I can think of is George Graham at Arsenal.and even he may have but I cant think of any.

Completely agree with this

 

[BensGrandad]

If playing Walton at Middlesbro was an indication of CH thinking what about playing Bennett and Halford and bringing CMS on as a sub where they also indications of the future.

 

[NooBHA]

That's not the same thing. You said playing Walton told you that. This is not true. If you've heard it from another source, then fair enough but Walton playing the last game of the season is not relevant.

I know CH and the other coaching staff very well and you hear one or two things in passing You never know for sure what is really being considered without asking outright. Then when you see Walton getting played in last game of the season, it reconfirms some of the things heard previously. That's why I said playing Walton made me think he is looking at other options to Stockdale