Official Running Thread

[big nuts]

I'm glad this got bounced

I had five weeks off, as couldn't run in the heat

Did three 10k's in the week and felt good

I found I was concentrating too much on the times I was running, and thinking about pushing my distances, so that it was clogging my mind with pressure...

I'm now going to run without these encumberances, through the autumn/winter, and be ready for April 12th. '15

Good move. I tend to start a run without putting too much pressure on time but I always try to finish strongly and look for a fast finish putting everything into the last 2/3 miles.

What I have learned is to run fast or faster you have to mix your training up, so I tried blitzing 5k's as part of half and full marathon training and it really helps.

 

[Jbanged]

Just got into running again after a long time off and enjoying the good life!
Last few weeks I have been out for small runs and gradually building up my distance. I feel a lot better already!

I saw a few posts about people using garmin watches and having teams. I was bought a nike plus running watch, does anyone have one on here?
I'm currently friendless on it, would be good to have someone to compare runs with.

 

[Spun Cuppa]

Good move. I tend to start a run without putting too much pressure on time but I always try to finish strongly and look for a fast finish putting everything into the last 2/3 miles.

What I have learned is to run fast or faster you have to mix your training up, so I tried blitzing 5k's as part of half and full marathon training and it really helps.

Thanks for that

I thought I'd try something new, so breezed up to the Dyke on a 77 bus, then ran along the SDW to the A283 between Upper Beeding and the Cement Works. It was dry out and breezy, so perfect. Had to have a breather after negotiating the three up slopes to Truleigh Hill, then a nice descent to the road. One day when I'm brave, I'll attempt it the other way

 

[Goring Gull]

Started running about 8 weeks ago and going from managing 3k in 35 mins including nearly keeling over i have now got 5k down to a 23.56 PB definitely worth putting in the effort it does pay off and I have definitely felt better for doing it.

 

[poidy]

I'm glad this got bounced

I had five weeks off, as couldn't run in the heat

Did three 10k's in the week and felt good

I found I was concentrating too much on the times I was running, and thinking about pushing my distances, so that it was clogging my mind with pressure...

I'm now going to run without these encumberances, through the autumn/winter, and be ready for April 12th. '15

Running in the heat is a dangerous business as I nearly found out to my cost a few weeks back.

29 degrees celsius slap bang in the middle of the warmest part of the day. Off I went on a 10 miler. The first 5 miles I stupidly set of on a pace of 7 minute miles. All good until that 5 mile point when I suddenly began to feel a tad ropey. My body temperature had gone through the roof and I had seemingly stopped sweating (subsequent research has told me this is not a good sign). At this point the shivering kicked in as well but what the heck, 5 miles from home I just had to crack on despite the absence of any water. Dropped my pace to 8 minute miles for these remaining 5 miles, progressively feeling worse. Made the 10 miles, in a bloody good time all things considered. Post run I couldn't get enough isotonic drinks inside me. Dinner was caped in salt (I never add salt to my meals) and I spent the rest of
the evening thinking how stupid if been.

Suffice to say I stick to 8 minute miles on those warm days now

 

[Spun Cuppa]

I met a mate in the week, who has done a few marathons, and he said a method of increasing stamina and cardiovascular performance was to sprint for ten minutes, then jog for fifteen, then try to get back to the start of the fifteen minute jog in ten minutes, then jog the first ten minute sprint distance in fifteen minutes. It sounded like a good plan, which I have yet to attempt...

I don't know if I'm right in thinking that this method increases the oxygenation of the blood, thus increasing stamina?

What I'm doing now is running up fairly testing urban hills for about a mile and a bit a pop, and when I run 10k on the flat, the increase in stamina is marked

Anyone know anything about oxygenation of the blood and stamina?

I could Google it, but prefer it from the horse's mouth as it were

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Just competed an 18 mile training run. Ouch.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Running in the heat is a dangerous business as I nearly found out to my cost a few weeks back.

29 degrees celsius slap bang in the middle of the warmest part of the day. Off I went on a 10 miler. The first 5 miles I stupidly set of on a pace of 7 minute miles. All good until that 5 mile point when I suddenly began to feel a tad ropey. My body temperature had gone through the roof and I had seemingly stopped sweating (subsequent research has told me this is not a good sign). At this point the shivering kicked in as well but what the heck, 5 miles from home I just had to crack on despite the absence of any water. Dropped my pace to 8 minute miles for these remaining 5 miles, progressively feeling worse. Made the 10 miles, in a bloody good time all things considered. Post run I couldn't get enough isotonic drinks inside me. Dinner was caped in salt (I never add salt to my meals) and I spent the rest of
the evening thinking how stupid if been.

Suffice to say I stick to 8 minute miles on those warm days now

If you're prepared and hydrated, and keep hydrated properly, and wear suitable technical gear they shouldn't be an issue.

 

[Spun Cuppa]

Any thoughts on a hill training regime?

 

[dazzer6666]

Would always have a weekly hill session as part of a varied programme. Depending on your target events, some form of hill repeats, either continuous effort up and down or hard one way and recover the other (again vary this). Brilliant for cv, strengthening and conditioning

 

[Spun Cuppa]

Would always have a weekly hill session as part of a varied programme. Depending on your target events, some form of hill repeats, either continuous effort up and down or hard one way and recover the other (again vary this). Brilliant for cv, strengthening and conditioning

Great stuff Thanks for the input

 

[nwgull]

I met a mate in the week, who has done a few marathons, and he said a method of increasing stamina and cardiovascular performance was to sprint for ten minutes, then jog for fifteen, then try to get back to the start of the fifteen minute jog in ten minutes, then jog the first ten minute sprint distance in fifteen minutes. It sounded like a good plan, which I have yet to attempt...

I don't know if I'm right in thinking that this method increases the oxygenation of the blood, thus increasing stamina?

What I'm doing now is running up fairly testing urban hills for about a mile and a bit a pop, and when I run 10k on the flat, the increase in stamina is marked

Anyone know anything about oxygenation of the blood and stamina?

I could Google it, but prefer it from the horse's mouth as it were

The first bit is fairly standard training: run fast (out of your comfort zone) for a set period and then a jog recovery, and then repeat. The way I do it is to have the fast bit twice as long as the following slow bit - i.e. 4 mins fast 2 min slow - and repeat until I've covered anywhere between 3-6 miles depending on the intensity of the efforts and what I'm training for at the time.

I'd get doing this sort of training ASAP; you'll really notice the difference.

 

[El Presidente]

I started running in mid-April, partly due to this thread, partly due to some fellow NSC'ers entering the marathon and being shamed into getting off my arse. I've entered the Brighton Marathon for 2015, and have my first half-marathon scheduled for a fortnight today, have even joined a running club. I've loved it all to date, have managed to regularly cover 10-15km, and was all prepared for the big day, in San Fran, in two weeks.

Yesterday I went out and it was clear there was something not right with my ankle region, I stopped running after a couple of miles in pain, and walked back to the car. It's clear that I have damaged my achilles, there's dull pain when I walk, more discomfort when I tried to run on it.

Have looked up on the internet, I appreciate it's rest required, and plenty of ibruproven (even though I have a pathological hatred of drugs) in the last 24 hours.

Realistically should I rest for a week and try a couple of short runs before the half in a fortnight, or am I deluding myself and should write the thing off?

Cheers.

 

[Steve Foster]

Well done runners. I did my 78th marathon yesterday. Thankfully it wasn't a hot day, but certainly at this time of year, I would always recommend water stops/taking fluids with you when running 10 miles+

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Any thoughts on a hill training regime?

As part of my marathon training is do one day of hill work. I jog for an mile then sprint up a hill for two minutes, jog back down, repeat this and then cool down with a mile jog. I build up the reps until I get to 12.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I started running in mid-April, partly due to this thread, partly due to some fellow NSC'ers entering the marathon and being shamed into getting off my arse. I've entered the Brighton Marathon for 2015, and have my first half-marathon scheduled for a fortnight today, have even joined a running club. I've loved it all to date, have managed to regularly cover 10-15km, and was all prepared for the big day, in San Fran, in two weeks.

Yesterday I went out and it was clear there was something not right with my ankle region, I stopped running after a couple of miles in pain, and walked back to the car. It's clear that I have damaged my achilles, there's dull pain when I walk, more discomfort when I tried to run on it.

Have looked up on the internet, I appreciate it's rest required, and plenty of ibruproven (even though I have a pathological hatred of drugs) in the last 24 hours.

Realistically should I rest for a week and try a couple of short runs before the half in a fortnight, or am I deluding myself and should write the thing off?

Cheers.

No need to write it off yet. Maybe rest it, ice it and see how it feels in a few days. Chances are is just one of the minor niggles you will get from long distance running. It depends on the exact issue but you can continue running with some achilles problems if you manage it. In fact I'm doing this right now. I have to stretch my calf out before running, after and during the day to take the tension off my heel. The heel is sore but not a problem. I've had it since the start of the year. Once my race is done I'll get it sorted. Best to see someone who is qualified though. But there's a good chance it's not the end of running.

 

[dazzer6666]

No need to write it off yet. Maybe rest it, ice it and see how it feels in a few days. Chances are is just one of the minor niggles you will get from long distance running. It depends on the exact issue but you can continue running with some achilles problems if you manage it. In fact I'm doing this right now. I have to stretch my calf out before running, after and during the day to take the tension off my heel. The heel is sore but not a problem. I've had it since the start of the year. Once my race is done I'll get it sorted. Best to see someone who is qualified though. But there's a good chance it's not the end of running.

100% this. If you can, definitely get to a physio (don't bother with a GP referral). . Firstly, you'll get the correct diagnosis and secondly you'll get the right treatment. I wouldn't be too disheartened, niggles are part and parcel of running, we all get them.

 

[El Presidente]

Cheers Guys. Will see if I can book a physio before flying out Friday

 

[knocky1]

Cheers Guys. Will see if I can book a physio before flying out Friday

Calf stretches got rid of mine and stopped them returning.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Cheers Guys. Will see if I can book a physio before flying out Friday

One thing I will say is go to a physio with a I'm-going-to-run-how-you-going-to-help-me attitude. I've been to a number of physios over the years and until they get to know you some will cover-their-ass and just err on the side of caution and tell you to stop..even for piddly little ailments which I know I can manage/run with. The internet is also a great source of information as most running injuries are very very common and easy to indentify from the descriptions provided.

Above all I will echo Dazzer6666's comment "I wouldn't be too disheartened, niggles are part and parcel of running, we all get them." Long distance running does come with some pain; running 26.2 miles is not normal If there is a major issue your body will stop you running.

Good luck and hope you make the race.