Sami Hyypia - "...financial things...that maybe I'm not fully aware of..."

[B.W.]

I think you're missing the point. I NEVER said we are linked to anyone In L2 but that's more likely the option. As for TOKO. I bet 99% of this board has never heard of him before. With Ward. if someone else Is Interested. He'll go there as money WILL be a factor. Now for the final one Odubajo or whatever his name is. Sure he scores at L1 level but he Is unproven and l.Orient will probably command a high price for him. You know there's a HUGE gap between L1 and the Championship. Already had one from Peterborough which cost an arm and a leg. Hardly a replacement for everyone favourite villain Murray was he.

Your previous post said: "I never said we have L2 players. What I meant Is thats probably the sort of players we will more than likely get In due to being El Cheapo." So, what makes you think we are after league 2 standard players? What information do you have that substantiates your claim? In the media? A source? Anywhere? If you don't have this info, I suggest you rescind your erroneous claim.

 

[L2MidgetGem B.H.A Seagull]

Your previous post said: "I never said we have L2 players. What I meant Is thats probably the sort of players we will more than likely get In due to being El Cheapo." So, what makes you think we are after league 2 standard players? What information do you have that substantiates your claim? In the media? A source? Anywhere? If you don't have this info, I suggest you rescind your erroneous claim.

I don't have a source. Just going on what I think. To be honest. Somethings not right.

 

[cloud]

We were very lucky the season before last to get some good players in - partly because of the likes of Man City picking up the wage bill, but also Poyet would have been a key attraction to new players.

While Oscar Garcia didn't have that gravitas, I get the feeling that one of the reasons they have picked Hyypia is cos of his contacts / reputation, so that players who might not otherwise have come, or been happy to drop a league, would be happy to do so.

Make the ground, facilities, ethos, awards, manager etc as appealing as possible and some players will be willing to take a pay cut.

 

[Miami Seagull]

Weren't we told that the money received for Bridcutt and Barnes would be reinvested? I would have thought he would have a fairly healthy amount to spend this offseason. Maybe the question will come up in a future press conference, but I doubt it.

 

[Goldstone1976]

Weren't we told that the money received for Bridcutt and Barnes would be reinvested? I would have thought he would have a fairly healthy amount to spend this offseason. Maybe the question will come up in a future press conference, but I doubt it.

This is slightly O/T for this thread, but there's a point about this season's budget that many people on here seem to be forgetting (no, this isn't a dig at you!). Most people talk about the received transfer fees from Barnes, Bridcutt and Adam, the new kit deal and the new sponsorship of the training ground and lump that all together and come up with a big figure for the manager to spend. This is all fair enough - however, on the other side of the coin, the FFP allowable loss drops from £8m to £6m (unless the FL votes to change it).

I suspect that the budget will therefore not be as big as many hope it will be; this may be a reason why there is so far no comment from the club in terms of comparing this season's budget with last season's.

 

[KZNSeagull]

This is slightly O/T for this thread, but there's a point about this season's budget that many people on here seem to be forgetting (no, this isn't a dig at you!). Most people talk about the received transfer fees from Barnes, Bridcutt and Adam, the new kit deal and the new sponsorship of the training ground and lump that all together and come up with a big figure for the manager to spend. This is all fair enough - however, on the other side of the coin, the FFP allowable loss drops from £8m to £6m (unless the FL votes to change it).

I suspect that the budget will therefore not be as big as many hope it will be; this may be a reason why there is so far no comment from the club in terms of comparing this season's budget with last season's.

But any "surplus" from this years budget can be artificially carried forward to next season by bringing costs from next season forward into this season's accounts.

 

[B.W.]

I don't have a source. Just going on what I think. To be honest. Somethings not right.

Fair enough. We'll see. One thing we can agree on is that we need 6/7 players in of top 6 Championship quality.

 

[B.W.]

We were very lucky the season before last to get some good players in - partly because of the likes of Man City picking up the wage bill, but also Poyet would have been a key attraction to new players.

While Oscar Garcia didn't have that gravitas, I get the feeling that one of the reasons they have picked Hyypia is cos of his contacts / reputation, so that players who might not otherwise have come, or been happy to drop a league, would be happy to do so.

Make the ground, facilities, ethos, awards, manager etc as appealing as possible and some players will be willing to take a pay cut.

Good point.

 

[Joe Gatting's Dad]

Tony has already said we will have a competitive budget! He could not be exact until after the next management meeting.

How clear a comment do you want?!

 

[Biscuit]

It seems extraordinary to me that he would make that comment. You would assume at the interview you would sit down and find out:-

1) Transfer budget
2) Wage Budget
3) If players are sold what % do we get to strengthen team

Its as basic I would imagine as negociating your salary. I would never leave and interview or accept a job where I was unsure of how much I was going to earn.... very odd if you ask me. At least he is getting his excuses in early.

..are the same thing.

 

[Monsieur Le Plonk]

I suspect that the budget will therefore not be as big as many hope it will be; this may be a reason why there is so far no comment from the club in terms of comparing this season's budget with last season's.

Am pretty confident that around the time of Hyypia's unveiling, Barber announced the budget would be very similar to last years.

 

[Biscuit]

Tony has already said we will have a competitive budget! He could not be exact until after the next management meeting.

How clear a comment do you want?!

"Competitive" doesn't say whether it's more or less than last season - saying 'increased' or 'decreased' would have been clearer.

TBH we've let a lot of players go, which will free up the transfer kitty significantly. Now the question is do we go after free's but offer great wages, or do we try and strike a balance between the fee paid/wages for players on other clubs books.

 

[Goldstone1976]

Am pretty confident that around the time of Hyypia's unveiling, Barber announced the budget would be very similar to last years.

Oh? If so, I missed it. I've seen the "competitive" comment from TB and also TB's comment that if the FFP allowable loss goes up, so will our budget, but I've not seen any comparison made with last season.

I hope you're right, as I've been worried that the FFP allowable loss currently dropping from £8m to £6m might have eaten a good chunk of what would otherwise have been available from Bridcutt et al's transfer fees.

 

[perseus]

You never win anything with Youngsters

He says all the right things: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27812911

A more introverted version of Gus Poyet in personality. Strategic rather than tactical.

Albion will be about the same budget wise, about eighth in the table behind most of the clubs with parachute payments who may be lumbered with high earners who they cannot shift.

Only Premier League youngsters and lower division and foreign players (including Germans) within our budget. Not old professionals looking for a wage before they retire as they want too much and they have been shifted out.

Five minimum, seven optimum new players needed. I would have had Stephen Ward as "Player of the Season" last year but I have a thinking we may miss out on him.

 

[Monsieur Le Plonk]

I am not sure I was entirely accurate.

Blooms quote:

“This season ten clubs have parachute payments. Financially you cannot compete with them. Last season it was eight. That doesn’t mean in player salary terms we are below them, we were above at least one of them last year. We will have a very healthy budget again this season"

 

[Dan Aitch]

Ummm, I did no such thing. I started a thread quoting the new manager and asking for views about what that quote means. You may be right about the quote being a throwaway line; alternatively, you may not be. Unless you're Sami, you don't know.

It's fine, of course, for you to think that it was a throwaway line that has no significance, and you may well be right. It's not so fine to also say that I started "a thread questioning the knowledge and/or conduct of the Board and the new manager", when that's just plain wrong!

Hey, no offence meant - I was in my lunch break at work and reading and typing very quickly. Apologies if misquoting you caused annoyance.

 

[Bwian]

I liked his response to The Scum's Mike Donovan when asked how he thought England would fare at the World Cup: "Is this press conference about England or a press conference about this appointment"?

 

[El Presidente]

Got a feeling we'll get nowhere on this shoestring budget. Also have a feeling Sami's not being told everything. He'll walk just like the other two. Said It once and I'll say it again. You're not going to get Into the prem on L2/L1 players/Wages. You want monkeys you pay peanuts. I know FFP is there for a reason but It's more a hindrance, more than anything else. Not helping anyone sept the top teams.

That's odd, as I'm sure you know the average wage bill last season in the Championship was £18 million (the range was £6-37 million) and the Albion claimed their's to be £22 million. The average in L1 was £5 million and L2 £2 million.

Are you saying the Albion have lied to us in quoting those figures, as clearly you have an inside track and know we are paying far less. I can't believe you're telling complete made up bollocks about the salary costs, so it must be Bloom, Barber and the auditors. All three MUST go if your scoop is correct surely? I think someone should get on to trading standards, as we are being fleeced for high matchday tickets which are Championship level whilst the players are on a pittance.

 

[L2MidgetGem B.H.A Seagull]

That's odd, as I'm sure you know the average wage bill last season in the Championship was £18 million (the range was £6-37 million) and the Albion claimed their's to be £22 million. The average in L1 was £5 million and L2 £2 million.

Are you saying the Albion have lied to us in quoting those figures, as clearly you have an inside track and know we are paying far less. I can't believe you're telling complete made up bollocks about the salary costs, so it must be Bloom, Barber and the auditors. All three MUST go if your scoop is correct surely? I think someone should get on to trading standards, as we are being fleeced for high matchday tickets which are Championship level whilst the players are on a pittance.

Now your just taking the piss. I NEVER once claimed to know what the wage bill was or Is.

 

[Stat Brother]

That's odd, as I'm sure you know the average wage bill last season in the Championship was £18 million (the range was £6-37 million) and the Albion claimed their's to be £22 million. The average in L1 was £5 million and L2 £2 million.

Are you saying the Albion have lied to us in quoting those figures, as clearly you have an inside track and know we are paying far less. I can't believe you're telling complete made up bollocks about the salary costs, so it must be Bloom, Barber and the auditors. All three MUST go if your scoop is correct surely? I think someone should get on to trading standards, as we are being fleeced for high matchday tickets which are Championship level whilst the players are on a pittance.

Here we go again.

The thread is trundling along nicely with the next potentially libelous rumour trumping the last, all based on quote which may or may not be factually correct.

Then in marches El Pres, jack booting his way through the entire thread spouting of all things ...

the truth.

When will you ever learn.

The TRUTH has no place on NSC when discussing Barber and Burke.