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Pantani

Il Pirata
Dec 3, 2008
5,445
Newcastle
[MENTION=27749]Footsoldier[/MENTION]

As you couldn't be bothered to answer, I have looked up UKIP's employment policy for you.

'UKIP would put an end to most legislation regarding matters such as weekly working hours, holidays … overtime, redundancy or sick pay etc. and provide a statutory, standard, very short employment contract template … those employers who offer relatively generous terms would be able to use this in their advertising and might be able to attract better candidates or pay slightly lower salaries, and the reverse would apply to employers who demand longer working hours, or offer fewer holidays or fewer days’ sick pay etc'.

'UKIP would legislate to ensure the scope of claims which can be heard by tribunals will be greatly reduced. In particular, limits on unfair dismissal and discrimination claims will be re-instated and no unfair dismissals or discrimination claims would be admitted by the Tribunals in respect of employees with less than two years continuous employment'.

So in conclusion, the party you are voting for would actually encourage the situation you described in your previous post by reducing the rights of employees. Let us all hope you do not get what you are voting for.
 


daveinprague

New member
Oct 1, 2009
12,572
Prague, Czech Republic
Ernie,for once I totally agree with you...from now on you are a two trick pony:clap2::clap2::clap2:

You forgot to tell me the name of the council that didnt fly a St Georges flag on St Georges day...in case it upset 'muslins'.....
I did ask you which council, particularly that even after answering your questions, you seem to post....i see you didnt answser...

but anyway....where was this council ?
 


Nibble

New member
Jan 3, 2007
19,238
It's about time people like you woke up and smelt the coffee for a change instead of labeling everyone as racists because they disagree. To many people you say? There's not enough houses at it is and we let in 250,000 every year and people wonder why we haven't enough? How about hospitals? not enough and A&E are swamped, why? Prisons are 3rd full, why?

uncontrolled immigration.

There is not enough housing because successive governments have refused to release land for housing. Why they have done this is open to conjecture but a property lawyer I know believes it is to raise the value of existing property so the old guard can accrue a portfolio of extremely over-valued property. I have no reason not to agree with him.
 




DavidinSouthampton

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 3, 2012
16,603
lol, you what? They can't get jobs because of mass immigration :lolol:

Statistically, that just isn't true.

UKIP come out with a load of rubbish sometimes, which people unfortunately believe.
 


somerset

New member
Jul 14, 2003
6,600
Yatton, North Somerset
There is not enough housing because successive governments have refused to release land for housing. Why they have done this is open to conjecture but a property lawyer I know believes it is to raise the value of existing property so the old guard can accrue a portfolio of extremely over-valued property. I have no reason not to agree with him.

Other than your failure to research it properly if course.....
 


Seagull on the wing

New member
Sep 22, 2010
7,458
Hailsham
You forgot to tell me the name of the council that didnt fly a St Georges flag on St Georges day...in case it upset 'muslins'.....
I did ask you which council, particularly that even after answering your questions, you seem to post....i see you didnt answser...

but anyway....where was this council ?

Sorry for the delay in answering...I was out placing my vote.


Labour rural council refuses to fly St George's flag for fear of offending 0.28% of Muslim population
Thu, 16/05/2013 - 17:00
Labour

A town council in Somerset has decided not to fly the St George flag in case it offends the 0.28% of Muslims in the town

Radstock, which contains four churches, united under the umbrella of "Churches together in Radstock" has a population of 5,620, with only 16 of them Muslim, according to the census data.

However, in typical Labour fashion, a councillor said the flag of ENGLAND could upset people because of its links to the Crusades.
University lecturer, Eleanor Jackson, said: ‘My big problem is it is offensive to some Muslims, but even more that it has been hijacked by the far Right.’

Disgustingly, the lily livered council agreed with her suggestion not to purchase a St George’s flag for the town’s recently repaired flagpole.

A Union Flag will now only be flown on Armistice Day,
Lesley Mansell, Chairman of the council said: ‘We do not have a Union Jack and the discussion was about purchasing one to fly mainly for Armistice Day.
‘The council confirmed its original decision to purchase a Union Jack.’

A spokesman for the patriotic group the Royal Society of St George, John Clements, denounced the ridiculous decision for ‘censoring’ the national flag, and playing into the hands of the far Right.

And to prove how bizarre the decision was, Rizwan Ahmed, a spokesman for the Bristol Muslim Cultural Society, said: ‘To say that Muslims are offended I don’t think is correct.

‘We understand the flag is part of this country’s heritage, and in fact many Muslims identify as being British.’

Pensioner and local resident Irene Burchell, 76, added: ‘The council does not speak for the people of Radstock, and it certainly doesn’t speak for me.
‘I think it is absolute nonsense. The St George’s flag has been adopted by England for centuries.’

The rainbow flag of the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender pride movement will also be raised at ‘appropriate’ times of the year.

Rizwan Ahmed further added: ‘It is political correctness going a bit too far.
'Use by the far right is one thing, but to say that Muslims are offended I don’t think is correct.'

These Labour traitors who make these ludicrous decisions would only be content if we changed our country’s flag to plain white.

Hackney town Hall did not fly the St Georges cross.
Festivities were cancelled in Bradford and the flag not flown.

Now I await your for excuses for this...like er that is far right propaganda.
Only a small place so that is insignifigant.:whistle:
 




daveinprague

New member
Oct 1, 2009
12,572
Prague, Czech Republic
No, I would like to see the link...thanks in advance.
but fair enough...

....as ive always said as well concerning the flag...'but even more that it has been hijacked by the far Right.’


'Rizwan Ahmed further added: ‘It is political correctness going a bit too far.
'Use by the far right is one thing, but to say that Muslims are offended I don’t think is correct.'


This is quite important...its been said on NSC more than once, by myself, and others, but shouted down...
The far right has made our flag, unacceptable to many, because of its association with the far-right...im sure you know that.

http://www.bathchronicle.co.uk/Rads...eorge-s-flag/story-19045077-detail/story.html
 
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Nibble

New member
Jan 3, 2007
19,238
Other than your failure to research it properly if course.....

Someone with over 40 years experience in property law expressed an opinion. I thought it was credible. I posted it here. This country desperately needs new housing and has done for decades. I don't happen to believe the line that it's due to immigrants. Anyways, I have posted enough about UKIP and my opinions on them. I'm boring myself now, I'm off down my allotment, my beans need a watering.
 


keaton

Big heart, hot blood and balls. Big balls
Nov 18, 2004
9,666
Sorry for the delay in answering...I was out placing my vote.


Labour rural council refuses to fly St George's flag for fear of offending 0.28% of Muslim population
Thu, 16/05/2013 - 17:00
Labour

A town council in Somerset has decided not to fly the St George flag in case it offends the 0.28% of Muslims in the town

Radstock, which contains four churches, united under the umbrella of "Churches together in Radstock" has a population of 5,620, with only 16 of them Muslim, according to the census data.

However, in typical Labour fashion, a councillor said the flag of ENGLAND could upset people because of its links to the Crusades.
University lecturer, Eleanor Jackson, said: ‘My big problem is it is offensive to some Muslims, but even more that it has been hijacked by the far Right.’

Disgustingly, the lily livered council agreed with her suggestion not to purchase a St George’s flag for the town’s recently repaired flagpole.

A Union Flag will now only be flown on Armistice Day,
Lesley Mansell, Chairman of the council said: ‘We do not have a Union Jack and the discussion was about purchasing one to fly mainly for Armistice Day.
‘The council confirmed its original decision to purchase a Union Jack.’

A spokesman for the patriotic group the Royal Society of St George, John Clements, denounced the ridiculous decision for ‘censoring’ the national flag, and playing into the hands of the far Right.

And to prove how bizarre the decision was, Rizwan Ahmed, a spokesman for the Bristol Muslim Cultural Society, said: ‘To say that Muslims are offended I don’t think is correct.

‘We understand the flag is part of this country’s heritage, and in fact many Muslims identify as being British.’

Pensioner and local resident Irene Burchell, 76, added: ‘The council does not speak for the people of Radstock, and it certainly doesn’t speak for me.
‘I think it is absolute nonsense. The St George’s flag has been adopted by England for centuries.’

The rainbow flag of the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender pride movement will also be raised at ‘appropriate’ times of the year.

Rizwan Ahmed further added: ‘It is political correctness going a bit too far.
'Use by the far right is one thing, but to say that Muslims are offended I don’t think is correct.'

These Labour traitors who make these ludicrous decisions would only be content if we changed our country’s flag to plain white.

Hackney town Hall did not fly the St Georges cross.
Festivities were cancelled in Bradford and the flag not flown.

Now I await your for excuses for this...like er that is far right propaganda.
Only a small place so that is insignifigant.:whistle:

How is it typical Labour if only one (very small) council did it?
 




DavidinSouthampton

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 3, 2012
16,603
Sorry for the delay in answering...I was out placing my vote.


Labour rural council refuses to fly St George's flag for fear of offending 0.28% of Muslim population
Thu, 16/05/2013 - 17:00
Labour

A town council in Somerset has decided not to fly the St George flag in case it offends the 0.28% of Muslims in the town

Radstock, which contains four churches, united under the umbrella of "Churches together in Radstock" has a population of 5,620, with only 16 of them Muslim, according to the census data.

However, in typical Labour fashion, a councillor said the flag of ENGLAND could upset people because of its links to the Crusades.
University lecturer, Eleanor Jackson, said: ‘My big problem is it is offensive to some Muslims, but even more that it has been hijacked by the far Right.’

Disgustingly, the lily livered council agreed with her suggestion not to purchase a St George’s flag for the town’s recently repaired flagpole.

A Union Flag will now only be flown on Armistice Day,
Lesley Mansell, Chairman of the council said: ‘We do not have a Union Jack and the discussion was about purchasing one to fly mainly for Armistice Day.
‘The council confirmed its original decision to purchase a Union Jack.’

A spokesman for the patriotic group the Royal Society of St George, John Clements, denounced the ridiculous decision for ‘censoring’ the national flag, and playing into the hands of the far Right.

And to prove how bizarre the decision was, Rizwan Ahmed, a spokesman for the Bristol Muslim Cultural Society, said: ‘To say that Muslims are offended I don’t think is correct.

‘We understand the flag is part of this country’s heritage, and in fact many Muslims identify as being British.’

Pensioner and local resident Irene Burchell, 76, added: ‘The council does not speak for the people of Radstock, and it certainly doesn’t speak for me.
‘I think it is absolute nonsense. The St George’s flag has been adopted by England for centuries.’

The rainbow flag of the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender pride movement will also be raised at ‘appropriate’ times of the year.

Rizwan Ahmed further added: ‘It is political correctness going a bit too far.
'Use by the far right is one thing, but to say that Muslims are offended I don’t think is correct.'

These Labour traitors who make these ludicrous decisions would only be content if we changed our country’s flag to plain white.

Hackney town Hall did not fly the St Georges cross.
Festivities were cancelled in Bradford and the flag not flown.

Now I await your for excuses for this...like er that is far right propaganda.
Only a small place so that is insignifigant.:whistle:

That's a nice, unbiased article, then. Making a mountain out of a molehill where a dubious decision probably was made by a handful of people. It might be a bit different if the London Assembly or West Sussex County Council had decreed something similar. had decreed something similar
 


wellquickwoody

Many More Voting Years
NSC Patron
Aug 10, 2007
13,624
Melbourne
but the majority of the country knows what the UKIP is about....

I think the majority of NSC know what you are about Dave.

A one topic pony who likes to impose his will and values upon others, whilst living 800 miles away and not having to deal with the consequences of his opinions and actions, you are an irrelevance sir.
 


somerset

New member
Jul 14, 2003
6,600
Yatton, North Somerset
Someone with over 40 years experience in property law expressed an opinion. I thought it was credible. I posted it here. This country desperately needs new housing and has done for decades. I don't happen to believe the line that it's due to immigrants. Anyways, I have posted enough about UKIP and my opinions on them. I'm boring myself now, I'm off down my allotment, my beans need a watering.

The population of this country is increasing, that's a fact, government statistics attribute the largest contributor to that increase as being net inward migration, its another fact.......hence the need for more housing.

Brownfield sites are steadily being released for new housing, but not quick enough because in general terms the planning process is unwieldly.

(Tedious disclaimer)....I don't vote for Ukip.
 




daveinprague

New member
Oct 1, 2009
12,572
Prague, Czech Republic
I think the majority of NSC know what you are about Dave.

A one topic pony who likes to impose his will and values upon others, whilst living 800 miles away and not having to deal with the consequences of his opinions and actions, you are an irrelevance sir.

and you are a pointless **** to me.....anything else?

I dont 'impose' anything, on anybody....i reserve the right to laugh at stupid *****, who are conned by the UKIP, but thats my perogative....deal with it..


pssst...when I see NSC's rightwing ****wits, tell Spanish he has no say (never seen it happen yet).....then, ill say **** all...deal?

haha..
 


Mr Bridger

Sound of the suburbs
Feb 25, 2013
4,454
Earth
and you are a pointless **** to me.....anything else?

I dont 'impose' anything, on anybody....i reserve the right to laugh at stupid *****, who are conned by the UKIP, but thats my perogative....deal with it..


pssst...when I see NSC's rightwing ****wits, tell Spanish he has no say (never seen it happen yet).....then, ill say **** all...deal?

haha..

alright Dave, can i ask how old you are? thanks.
 








seagullsovergrimsby

#cpfctinpotclub
Aug 21, 2005
43,690
Crap Town
[MENTION=27749]Footsoldier[/MENTION]

As you couldn't be bothered to answer, I have looked up UKIP's employment policy for you.

'UKIP would put an end to most legislation regarding matters such as weekly working hours, holidays … overtime, redundancy or sick pay etc. and provide a statutory, standard, very short employment contract template … those employers who offer relatively generous terms would be able to use this in their advertising and might be able to attract better candidates or pay slightly lower salaries, and the reverse would apply to employers who demand longer working hours, or offer fewer holidays or fewer days’ sick pay etc'.

'UKIP would legislate to ensure the scope of claims which can be heard by tribunals will be greatly reduced. In particular, limits on unfair dismissal and discrimination claims will be re-instated and no unfair dismissals or discrimination claims would be admitted by the Tribunals in respect of employees with less than two years continuous employment'.

So in conclusion, the party you are voting for would actually encourage the situation you described in your previous post by reducing the rights of employees. Let us all hope you do not get what you are voting for.
If you left out the name of the political party and showed that statement to general members of the public I wonder how many would think it is actually a Conservative policy ?
 


Pantani

Il Pirata
Dec 3, 2008
5,445
Newcastle
If you left out the name of the political party and showed that statement to general members of the public I wonder how many would think it is actually a Conservative policy ?

I would like to think that as we have (effectively) a Conservative government right now, most would realise that this is not one of their policies. We will see whether my faith in the British public is misplaced by the numbers voting for UKIP, I suppose. :shrug:
 


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