Reasons why I'm voting for UKIP

[daveinprague]

When you think about it, it is quite worrying how easy it has become for people to use the word Nazi and Racist so freely at other people. In fact it is utterly disgusting.

Not when being used towards racists, and nazis...
Youre being very precious...you, and I know, there is a large percentage of the said groups in UKIP....most people find that utterly disgusting.

 

[spring hall convert]

Number 14 is the truth.

If you want to vote UKIP, it's fine but don't kid yourself it's a protest. You voting for the same public school educated, not in the real world rubbish that you are trying to protest against. And Farage is an ex-banker to boot.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Exactly.

If your job is taken by an immigrant who can't speak English, what that should tell you is that you're utterly shit at your job.

I worked at a local factory for 4 years when I left school. About 10 years ago I went back there to work for a few months. I did every job that was asked of me and since I had worked there before I still knew how to do the jobs. I asked if they had anything permanent they could give me. I was told unfortunately no, what about temporary work, again I was told no.

What pissed me off the most, as I was walking out the building on my final day, 20 agency workers turned up, all foreigners. So your saying that my job was taken by immigrants because I was utterly shit at my job?

I know the real reasons they where getting the jobs, it's because they where cheaper than me. The company could call them in one day and tell them to bugger off the next. Not blaming the immigrants, blaming the stupid system and that system still exists now.

 

[mikeyjh]

christ on a stick
you mean we have to put up with this until then?

i wish we had beaten Derby!

Well, laughing it UKIP (if it wasn't actually horrible that so many people are going to be misled in to voting for them) is a fantastic distraction from Saturday, trust me......

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Not when being used towards racists, and nazis...
Youre being very precious...you, and I know, there is a large percentage of the said groups in UKIP....most people find that utterly disgusting.

Lets not go around in circles, they exist everywhere, in every single political party, let's agree on that part at least.
What about the older electorate who say vote Tory, Lib Dems, Labour. I bet there are some for example that wouldn't agree with Gay Marriage, nothing is said about that, but if they align with UKIP they suddenly become homophobic.

I just been made more of an issue because UKIP are a threat to main parties that is all, it really is as simple as that.

In your defence, the tattoo thread, yes that did worry me. I am in two minds here still, either that bloke is being completely stitched up, or it is the truth.

 

[hybrid_x]

the media have been really clever.

"Vote for more centralisation of power, or you are racist." .....and people have fallen for it.


voting for 751 people to represent 505 million people is madness, and anyone taking part in that really needs some quiet time alone in nature.

 

[daveinprague]

Lets not go around in circles, they exist everywhere, in every single political party, let's agree on that part at least.
What about the older electorate who say vote Tory, Lib Dems, Labour. I bet there are some for example that wouldn't agree with Gay Marriage, nothing is said about that, but if they align with UKIP they suddenly become homophobic.

I just been made more of an issue because UKIP are a threat to main parties that is all, it really is as simple as that.

Well, you can kid yourself with that.....
As I said...you know, and I know that there is an ABNORMAL amount of racists, neo nazis, xenophobes, and mysoginists, that have been 'attracted' to UKIP.
Supporters of this group, can stay in denial, and keep bleating...ooh..your using the words racist, and nazis, and dont know the real meanings etc etc..
You can keep bleating that crap, but the majority of the country knows what the UKIP is about....

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Well, you can kid yourself with that.....
As I said...you know, and I know that there is an ABNORMAL amount of racists, neo nazis, xenophobes, and mysoginists, that have been 'attracted' to UKIP.
Supporters of this group, can stay in denial, and keep bleating...ooh..your using the words racist, and nazis, and dont know the real meanings etc etc..
You can keep bleating that crap, but the majority of the country knows what the UKIP is about....

Dave, I honestly can't see it. I have seen too many decent people who are voting for UKIP, who wouldn't in a million years be associated with those types of things.

 

[keaton]

the media have been really clever.

"Vote for more centralisation of power, or you are racist." .....and people have fallen for it.


voting for 751 people to represent 505 million people is madness, and anyone taking part in that really needs some quiet time alone in nature.

We established yesterday you don't know anything about the European elections, why should anyone listen to your opinion on them?

 

[hybrid_x]

We established yesterday you don't know anything about the European elections, why should anyone listen to your opinion on them?

not knowing the ins and outs of the current MEP structure 24 hours ago didn't mean i knew nothing, nor also that i now know nothing regarding European Elections.

respond to the post i made, or go away.

 

[Pantani]

I worked at a local factory for 4 years when I left school. About 10 years ago I went back there to work for a few months. I did every job that was asked of me and since I had worked there before I still knew how to do the jobs. I asked if they had anything permanent they could give me. I was told unfortunately no, what about temporary work, again I was told no.

What pissed me off the most, as I was walking out the building on my final day, 20 agency workers turned up, all foreigners. So your saying that my job was taken by immigrants because I was utterly shit at my job?

I know the real reasons they where getting the jobs, it's because they where cheaper than me. The company could call them in one day and tell them to bugger off the next. Not blaming the immigrants, blaming the stupid system and that system still exists now.

So have UKIP said they are going to put an end to agency workers with no rights and zero hour contracts? As that is the problem with what happened to you at this factory, NOT the immigrant workers who got the work through the agency.

You even say it yourself. Perhaps your vote would be better placed with the Greens (who want a national minimum wage that is enough to live on and ensure that workers’ rights apply to part-time, casual workers and the self-employed, and from the first day of employment.) or even the British Socialist Party. Or just keep blaming the people who are willing to work for this unacceptable wage.

 

[daveinprague]

Dave, I honestly can't see it. I have seen too many decent people who are voting for UKIP, who wouldn't in a million years be associated with those types of things.

Im sure there are...I dont believe you actually are...and I dont believe some of the conned voters are....but....at the end of the day, youre voting alongside a large number of racists, and neo nazis, for me, that would be concern enough, and would be asking serious questions of myself, never mind their policies.

 

[keaton]

not knowing the ins and outs of the current MEP structure 24 hours ago didn't mean i knew nothing, nor also that i now know nothing regarding European Elections.

respond to the post i made, or go away.

On your first point. It doesn't make sense. Lots of papers are anti-EU and still call UKIP racist, maybe it's not the anti-EU thing that makes people think they're racist but the other stuff.
On the second how do you know voting for that many people to represent us all is stupid if you don't know:
a) what they do?
b) how the European parliament works?
c) how our parliament works?

 

[Hamilton]

You're walking us into UKIP arms.

Nobody is walking you anywhere. You are going of your own accord.

My plea to you is to consider carefully how UKIP will damage our country in the long run. Countries do business with the UK because we are both independently strong and we are open for trade with the EU. Closing that down is not in our interests.

I tend to feel that you've made your views heard and now is the time to step away from the precipice.

 

[Tricky Dicky]

If you want to vote UKIP, it's fine but don't kid yourself it's a protest. You voting for the same public school educated, not in the real world rubbish that you are trying to protest against. And Farage is an ex-banker to boot.

Farage is exactly the sort of person most people would slate. Sadly the alternatives are so bad it makes him look almost rational. For me, he has one message and it's all about being negative, he says nothing positive at all .... anyone can do that

 

[Hamilton]

So have UKIP said they are going to put an end to agency workers with no rights and zero hour contracts? As that is the problem with what happened to you at this factory, NOT the immigrant workers who got the work through the agency.

You even say it yourself. Perhaps your vote would be better placed with the Greens (who want a national minimum wage that is enough to live on and ensure that workers’ rights apply to part-time, casual workers and the self-employed, and from the first day of employment.) or even the British Socialist Party. Or just keep blaming the people who are willing to work for this unacceptable wage.

This.

UKIP are stoking the people's fears. They are not coming with reasonable solutions.

 

[spring hall convert]

For me, he has one message and it's all about being negative, he says nothing positive at all .... anyone can do that

Certain regular posters on this message board being a fine example of just that!

 

[hybrid_x]

On your first point. It doesn't make sense. Lots of papers are anti-EU and still call UKIP racist, maybe it's not the anti-EU thing that makes people think they're racist but the other stuff.
On the second how do you know voting for that many people to represent us all is stupid if you don't know:
a) what they do?
b) how the European parliament works?
c) how our parliament works?

That's quite a jump you have made to make those three massive assumptions from the question i asked yesterday......heheh.

reminds me of this...

Anyway, now i've stopped laughing, in 3 paragraphs, can you please enlighten us on those three points?

 

[Footsoldier]

Nobody is walking you anywhere. You are going of your own accord.

My plea to you is to consider carefully how UKIP will damage our country in the long run. Countries do business with the UK because we are both independently strong and we are open for trade with the EU. Closing that down is not in our interests.

I tend to feel that you've made your views heard and now is the time to step away from the precipice.

Don't worry Hamilton, it's a protest vote. Just want to the three main parties to take note that our voices aren't being listened to. Just having my breakfast and we'll wander down to the polling station as it opens at 10.

 

[Czechmate]

Isn't it exciting don't think this country has ever been so gripped by a voting day or is it just NSC ? This is what we need now we have a lull In the football ! I will be off down the pub at lunch as that is where my polling station is Got a feeling this will be a bigger turnout that most people predict !