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Pavilionaire

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
30,781
Football just lurches from one crisis to another. Quite frankly, it's a miracle that there hasn't been an allegation of "inappropriate comments" before now, given the provocation refs are subjected to.

Yet referees will continue to be persecuted all the while a huge percentage of their key decisions are exposed as being wrong, week in and week out. That document showing they get 97% of decisions right was a joke and a massive missed opportunity.

It's about time officials genuinely started working as a team. Goal-line technology and 'one challenge per manager per game' would also help to turn the tide.
 




Tony Towner's Fridge

Well-known member
Aug 22, 2003
5,402
GLASGOW,SCOTLAND,UK
Chelsea have submitted a formal complaint to the refs association for inappropriate language used to 2 x Black players by Mark Clattenberg :mad:

Now Geoff Shreeves has been told (by a source) it may have been of a Racist nature. Although that is unsubstantiated dont want anyone getting in trouble!

Better complaint would have been that Clattenberg had the wrong colour top on. Was black but should have been red.

TNBA

TTF
 


hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
Helpful Moderator
Mar 16, 2005
61,720
Chandlers Ford
Depends on the system, the ones I have seen are all push to talk.

No. The Lino and fouth official have push to talk. The ref's is open mic.

The FIFA directive to referees is that they MUST NOT book a player for simulation, if there is ANY contact in the challenge.

(source for both - Graham Poll, on R5 earlier today )
 


Seagull over Canaryland

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Feb 8, 2011
3,552
Norfolk
Surely the HUGE story here is that either an EPL ref has been racist to two players or two players have lied about a referee. Either way, this is what will be dominating every newspaper/website for the next three months.


I agree and fear the footie media, FA, PFA etc all having a field day with this and dragging it out over months. Yes there was a racism case to answer between John Terry / Anton Ferdinand that had to follow due process in the Courts etc but the subsequent fall out from Rio Ferdinand / Jason Roberts has overshadowed football and is just dragging on and on. I suspect it is partly the players own vanity that is at the core of the issue. Very highly paid and powerful players who are allowed a very long leash by their Clubs seem beyond the normal rules of conduct in the workplace that the average punter has to comply with. They are indulged by their Managers rather than disciplined. Even after a Court case and PFA hearing Rio et al are still using their privileged position to chunter on about it. You've made your point (not very well) but now support the authorities in addressing the issues.

Take decisive action - clamp down on racism on the pitch by having Refs miked up and their conversations with players/vice versa broadcast to all, like in Rugby. OK it won't eradicate off the ball incidents away from the Ref but will make players think carefully about what they say - or take the consequences. If a Ref says something inappropriate then he or she will be exposed too. I don't think football should be sanitised, swearing is part of the game but racism isn't. Don't let this overshadow football. Football and the role models it creates is in a unique position to influence the behaviour of others, so should take decisive action.
 


Gritt23

New member
Jul 7, 2003
14,902
Meopham, Kent.
So, if a Chelsea player accused him of calling them "a black ****" and Clattenburgs defence is that "I heard someone accuse me of saying that, and what the player heard was me saying "no, I didn't call him a black ****", but they obviously didn't hear the first bit ..... then presumably Chelsea would accept that as perfectly acceptable and believable.

Btw, I have absolutely NO IDEA what he has been accused of saying.
 




Questions

Habitual User
Oct 18, 2006
24,996
Worthing
Keep reading that Torres went down flamboyantly.

I keep seeing him as Quentin Crisp in a sequinned Chelsea top, foppish black fedora, with a long cigarette holder, throwing himself to the ground and demanding the ultimate reward for his recent sufferings.

But then thats just me........
 


element

Fear [is] the key.....
Jan 28, 2009
1,887
Local
Just as an aside on the ref thang, as I can't get it out of my head about Andy d'Urso blowing up for the slightest contact in our game against Middlesbrough, which had probably 20 000 people venting their collective spleen, and in last Thursday's Europa League game between Liverpool and Anji, the Dutch ref waved play on to loads of tackles etc., that deffo would have been blown up for here, and it was a great game to watch. The phrase we never seem to hear now is, 'The ref let the game flow...' The game is now secondary to all the old bollocks that precedes and follows it! Strike a light :mad:
 






Buffalo Seagull

Active member
Jun 1, 2006
638
Geelong, Vic, Australia
Obviously that's a bit of an overreaction. However, I can genuinely say I have never seen one team get so many favourable decisions over the course of the last 20 years. It's becoming ridiculous.

That's because everyone focuses on the decisions that go their way, and conveniently ignore the decisions that go against them. Sunday's game is a perfect example. 95% of the comments on here suggest that Torres was hard done by. But he should have been sent off for the foul that got him his original yellow card. United were 2-0 up at the time.
 


Weststander

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NSC Patron
Aug 25, 2011
65,019
Withdean area
A host of incorrect decisions over the weekend, affecting the final results.
Liverpool winner disallowed.
Hernandez scoring when clearly offside.
Arsenal's winner offside, when making no headway against QPR.

And that's 3 that spring to mind. Another reason why football better watch, before fans get disillusioned.



I hope Clatttenburg did not refer to race in any way. There's no greater opponent of that kind of talk, than Chelsea Football Club.
 






seagullsovergrimsby

#cpfctinpotclub
Aug 21, 2005
43,705
Crap Town
Keep reading that Torres went down flamboyantly.

I keep seeing him as Quentin Crisp in a sequinned Chelsea top, foppish black fedora, with a long cigarette holder, throwing himself to the ground and demanding the ultimate reward for his recent sufferings.

But then thats just me........

Is it true Torres split a fingernail after falling over yesterday ???
 


seagullsovergrimsby

#cpfctinpotclub
Aug 21, 2005
43,705
Crap Town
A host of incorrect decisions over the weekend, affecting the final results.
Liverpool winner disallowed.
Hernandez scoring when clearly offside.
Arsenal's winner offside, when making no headway against QPR.

And that's 3 that spring to mind. Another reason why football better watch, before fans get disillusioned.



I hope Clatttenburg did not refer to race in any way. There's no greater opponent of that kind of talk, than Chelsea Football Club.

Another shocking error at Leicester. Garvan's handball on the line , no red card or penalty given , Leicester would have at least drawn the game.
 






Bold Seagull

strong and stable with me, or...
Mar 18, 2010
29,933
Hove
Is it true Torres split a fingernail after falling over yesterday ???

He was in terrible pain from the shear brutality of the tackle...

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Dandyman

In London village.
So, if a Chelsea player accused him of calling them "a black ****" and Clattenburgs defence is that "I heard someone accuse me of saying that, and what the player heard was me saying "no, I didn't call him a black ****", but they obviously didn't hear the first bit ..... then presumably Chelsea would accept that as perfectly acceptable and believable.

Btw, I have absolutely NO IDEA what he has been accused of saying.

I'm sure Terry and Cole would back that 100%.
 








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