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Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,352
Surrey
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7006412.stm

Basically an 8 year old girl got into difficulties in a pond, her 10 year old brother went in to save her and drowned. Meanwhile, 2 fishermen pulled the girl to safety but two Police support community support officers stood by as the boy drowned because they weren't trained for water safety.

So heated debate time and I'll nail my colours to the mast.

What pair of f***ing tossers. Wouldn't you at least do your best if you saw a 10 year old struggling to swim in a pond? Or would you stand by like a jobs worth and say I'm not trained?

What f***ing good are these "support officers" doing anyway? They're a poor mans policemen with half the powers and complete bloody waste of money.
 










tedebear

Legal Alien
Jul 7, 2003
16,871
In my computer
Agreed buzzer - they could have stopped being untrained PCOS's for two minutes to be a normal human being and dived in after him....I would have an I'm not trained in anything at all related to saving kids....you wouldn't have been able to hold me back frankly...

If I was the parents there would be no words to describe how irate I'd be - and those PCOS's should be having nightmares frankly...
 




pasty

A different kind of pasty
Jul 5, 2003
30,449
West, West, West Sussex
Quote....""Both ourselves and the fire brigade regularly warn the public of the dangers of going into unknown stretches of water so it would have been inappropriate for PCSOs, who are not trained in water rescue, to enter the pond."

So it's the kids own fault then? Tossers. If I ever see a support officer getting a kicking or anything, I won't help out because I'm not trained.
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,444
utter cun ts. this typifies the sort of people recruited as support officers. the majority are basically the same as traffic wardens / parking attendants, they sign up for a uniform and a sence of power.
 


Why isn't EVERYONE trained in basic rescue techniques?

I know that circumstances will sometimes be beyond the skills of someone with no more than basic training, and it's easy to condemn. But I was taught basic life-saving at school. As was everyone, simply because swimming was part of the curriculum in those days (not that it was called "The Curriculum", of course).
 




Man of Harveys

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2003
18,774
Brighton, UK
Unbelievable. Unlike many, I don't have any problem with cheap policing - after all, there's a deterrent effect there - but these two just sound like utter pricks. How on earth could ANYONE not try to help a drowning child, whether they have a uniform or not?
 


Publius Ovidius

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
46,255
at home
we have been having this argument at work, re trained first aiders. Do you know the Met do not advise their officers to administer first aid any more....for fear of being sued by the very people they are trying to help
 


Barrel of Fun

Abort, retry, fail
My school trained us in that sort of rescue at the age of 10. I wore a rather large cricket jumper when I was forced to leap into the pool to save the dummy. I thought it was the end of me!

Surely, training or not, you would jump into the water anyway... They defied the natural instinct to save someone. :nono:
 




Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
Hang on - presumably those 2 fuckwits were policing around the pond rather than taking a stroll. Surely the police have a DUTY to ensure competent people are patrolling in case anyone gets in trouble. Otherwise - why were they assigned to it?
 




Woodchip

It's all about the bikes
Aug 28, 2004
14,460
Shaky Town, NZ
Maybe they couldn't swim! I wouldn't jump in a pond for a kid, as I have the buoancy of a lump of lead, surrounded in concrete, with another layer of lead on the outside. I would get help though.
 




Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,352
Surrey
we have been having this argument at work, re trained first aiders. Do you know the Met do not advise their officers to administer first aid any more....for fear of being sued by the very people they are trying to help
It's another subject really but you can understand it. This is the legal culture comig home to roost.

I must admit I was expecting few people to defend these wankers but it seems that NSC is in total agreement that this was jobsworthy inhumane behaviour and it has cost that kid his life. Shocking behaviour, I hope these wastes of space get sacked - but they won't.
 




Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,352
Surrey
Maybe they couldn't swim! I wouldn't jump in a pond for a kid, as I have the buoancy of a lump of lead, surrounded in concrete, with another layer of lead on the outside. I would get help though.
Maybe not. So maybe they should have TOLD someone that before being assigned to patrol near a POND.
 


pasty

A different kind of pasty
Jul 5, 2003
30,449
West, West, West Sussex
we have been having this argument at work, re trained first aiders. Do you know the Met do not advise their officers to administer first aid any more....for fear of being sued by the very people they are trying to help

On a similar theme - I heard an odd one yesterday, in that apparently it is now acceptable or even the norm, NOT to keep plasters in an office first aid kit, just in case someone is allergic to them.
:nono:
 








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