BBassic
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- Jul 28, 2011
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So what do they earn in Brighton and Adur/Worthing?
I've no idea. I'm not a binman.
So what do they earn in Brighton and Adur/Worthing?
I've no idea. I'm not a binman.
So how do you know that they aren't already getting a decent wage and just being greedy?
How do you know they are getting a decent wage?
You said earlier about 'fair' pay. What's fair?
How much do you think someone dealing with the literal waste and detritus of other human beings should fairly expect to be paid?
How do you know they are getting a decent wage?
You said earlier about 'fair' pay. What's fair?
How much do you think someone dealing with the literal waste and detritus of other human beings should fairly expect to be paid?
They aren't picking up sh1t with a shovel. Most of them are wheeling bins with lids containing sealed bags or recycling to hook up to a lorry.
Nice dodge
In what way?
Personally I'd say somewhere between £25-£30k, depending on experience.
You never gave an answer to the question: how much do you think they should be paid?
It's easy enough.
Personally I'd say somewhere between £25-£30k, depending on experience. I think the bands zefarelly pointed out earlier of (£17-£26k) is a bit on the low side for the job they do.
Ok so lets use £25-£30kk. Looking at Brighton and Hove Councils job site we have:
Teacher £25,714
Night Care Officer £25,927
Social Worker £27,741
Mechanic £27,741
So you are saying that a refuse collector should be paid the same as a Teacher or Social Worker without any of the qualifications or pressure?
Yep.
They are absolutely not comparable jobs. All jobs should have a natural order in terms of pay scale based on qualifications required, responsibilities etc.
Ok so lets use £25-£30kk. Looking at Brighton and Hove Councils job site we have:
Teacher £25,714
Night Care Officer £25,927
Social Worker £27,741
Mechanic £27,741
So you are saying that a refuse collector should be paid the same as a Teacher or Social Worker without any of the qualifications or pressure?
Yep.
I'm really not going to get drawn into this one, except to say that I reckon most people in the first list could do the job of a refuse collector if they needed to / wanted to with minimal training; but a refuse collector couldn't transfer into a teaching, social care or mechanics job without the right skills / considerable training. So it seems reasonable that that is reflected in a salary differential, even if for no other reason than that is how labour markets work, before you even consider a premium for aquired skills.
Yeah, I agree.
As I've said above - all those jobs are underpaid as well.
ok lets increase all Council pay and then you will no doubt moan about your Council Tax going up.