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[Cricket] Ashes 2021-22



Luke93

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Jun 23, 2013
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Failure to bat on flat pitches is disappointing. Can we put the excuse down as Covid / preparation? Happens almost every Ashes down under. Has been happening in the CC for years too.
 




Cheshire Cat

The most curious thing..
The excuse is that they are crap. How Burns retains his place is completely beyond me.
 


jakarta

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May 25, 2007
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Failure to bat on flat pitches is disappointing. Can we put the excuse down as Covid / preparation? Happens almost every Ashes down under. Has been happening in the CC for years too.

No we can put it down with the ECB obsession of winning T20, you may just have noticed County 4 Day only gets played in May and September, hardly the right way to get players fit for Test Cricket.

Another 5 nil beckons...
 


Luke93

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Jun 23, 2013
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The simple fact is England just aren’t very good at test cricket, and haven’t been for years. Root, Anderson, Broad and the occasional Stokes miracle have papered over a lot of cracks. There’s some nascent talent in there (Robinson, Hameed) and Wood and Woakes are OK in the right conditions. But there’s a lot of dross. Plus the coach is shite.
The team have certainly failed to deliver. This collective of players is so close to a golden era. Root, Anderson, Broad and Stokes are exceptional cricketers who will go down as all time greats for England. As you say Robinson, Wood & Woakes are very good players too. Wasted potential. A team which can field players of that quality needs to do a lot better, even with the ageing Anderson and Broad.
 


Cheshire Cat

The most curious thing..
You can drop Burns, Pope and Buttler for the rest of the series.

The replacements are no better, but at least I wouldn't have to suffer watching Burns play with a crooked bat across the line every ball His technique is simply woeful
 




Bold Seagull

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You can drop Burns, Pope and Buttler for the rest of the series.

The replacements are no better, but at least I wouldn't have to suffer watching Burns play with a crooked bat across the line every ball His technique is simply woeful

Foakes would undoubtedly improve us behind the stumps and can bat. His continued omission is a mistake.
 


jakarta

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May 25, 2007
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Convicts didn't enforce the follow on, I would guess they blast a quick 200, declare and then book their Tee Times?
 


A1X

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It will be a long time until England get another day this good for batting in Australia. Of the batsmen dismissed today, Woakes was got out by a good ball, Stokes perished trying to whack it which is fair enough, Broad did his thing. The rest? Questions.
 




Questions

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Oct 18, 2006
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It will be a long time until England get another day this good for batting in Australia. Of the batsmen dismissed today, Woakes was got out by a good ball, Stokes perished trying to whack it which is fair enough, Broad did his thing. The rest? Questions.

Don’t ask me A1X.
 


Is it PotG?

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Feb 20, 2017
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I can't QUITE put my finger on the problem here.

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1100 runs, that's 1100 folks! :facepalm:
 


hans kraay fan club

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Mar 16, 2005
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It will be a long time until England get another day this good for batting in Australia. Of the batsmen dismissed today, Woakes was got out by a good ball, Stokes perished trying to whack it which is fair enough, Broad did his thing. The rest? Questions.

Even there you are being very generous. The ball that got Woakes (and the carbon copy that got Robinson) was just a stock ball. If either of them defend properly on the front foot, then the turn is covered and it passes without alarm.

Stokes too - yes he was trying to hit out - but he was doing so with no shape, and with his head in the air.
 




Bold Seagull

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It’s a shame Michael Masi isn’t the match referee, he could unilaterally decide to cancel the Aussies first innings or something…
 




A1X

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Starting to think England’s man of the series is going to end up being that bloke in the restaurant who gave Pat Cummins Covid
 




um bongo molongo

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Jul 26, 2004
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The simple fact is England just aren’t very good at test cricket, and haven’t been for years. Root, Anderson, Broad and the occasional Stokes miracle have papered over a lot of cracks. There’s some nascent talent in there (Robinson, Hameed) and Wood and Woakes are OK in the right conditions. But there’s a lot of dross. Plus the coach is shite.

Yep. Even at the time the coach appointment felt like the easy/cosy appointment (Kirsten a far stronger candidate). But I’m not sure the worlds greatest super coach could turn this lot in to a good test team, the problems run a lot deeper than that.
 


knocky1

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Jan 20, 2010
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Starting to think England’s man of the series is going to end up being that bloke in the restaurant who gave Pat Cummins Covid

Followed closely by Mark Wood's beamer to Travis Head. If it had been Warner it would have swung it to Wood.

On a brighter note yesterday Sky Bet allowed me to cash out my full £300 stake on an England Series win at 10-1. Computer error on their side but I gleefully took it back.
 


um bongo molongo

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Followed closely by Mark Wood's beamer to Travis Head. If it had been Warner it would have swung it to Wood.

On a brighter note yesterday Sky Bet allowed me to cash out my full £300 stake on an England Series win at 10-1. Computer error on their side but I gleefully took it back.

Wow, that was an optimistic bet! I’d have wanted 100/1 or more for that one I think. We’re rubbish and have been for some time.
 


Eeyore

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Convicts didn't enforce the follow on, I would guess they blast a quick 200, declare and then book their Tee Times?

Australia never enforce the follow on. Not unless there is no chance they will have to bat again (e.g weather).

They lost a Test in India in 2001 after doing so and have avoided it since.
 






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If Stokes and Woakes do PBs we’ll be about 30 runs ahead.


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Thanks, another 3 questions.

1) can we win this if we start tampering with the ball?
2) why the feck have we given so many extras away to them.....is it down to one bowler?
3) Would Beefy make a difference if we could swap one out???
 


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