Yesterday's game on iplayer

[Bevendean Hillbilly]

Sorry if fixtures.

On FL show. 35 mins in or thereabouts.

That is all.

 

[Derbyshire Seagull]

Ta. Was just looking for that info.

 

[Icy Gull]

WAS Barnes offside for the 1st goal?? Clough seemed pretty convinced he was

 

[Hyperion]

Oh. Already being organized, I had recorded. Which is just as well as my Internet service has gone down in my area over night. Oh ..... Wait, bollocks I have bloody forgotten so I can't even download it.

 

[Icy Gull]

WAS Barnes offside for the 1st goal?? Clough seemed pretty convinced he was

Having watched iplayer, I think he probably was. Maybe the comments about the ref trying to even it up, having probably seen the goal at half time, may explain the officials apparent bias towards Derby in the second half.

Good second goal and pretty slick training ground goal by Derby

 

[Ali_rrr]

34.08 to be exact.

 

[culvers]

WAS Barnes offside for the 1st goal?? Clough seemed pretty convinced he was

Seemed to be.

I would like to see our last minute offside trap again also. The guy who received the ball seemed to come from quite deep.

 

[Leighgull]

If Barnes was offside (and its a big if) it's luck we are overdue with decisions.

 

[Icy Gull]

If Barnes was offside (and its a big if) it's luck we are overdue with decisions.

I don't disagree I was just wondering if the ref became a bit bias to Derby in the 2nd half because of it. His decision making looked very suspect to me.

 

[Bevendean Hillbilly]

I don't disagree I was just wondering if the ref became a bit bias to Derby in the 2nd half because of it. His decision making looked very suspect to me.

Yep. It seems to be the way they fix their karma these days. I'm not sure it was just the Barnes goal that prompted it though. There were two or three odd call 1 st half.

 

[GingerBeerMan]

Hard to tell, seems in line with the ball from that angle.

 

[Icy Gull]

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Hard to tell, seems in line with the ball from that angle.

One foot on the line, the defenders are all behind it? I'd say off but hey ho.

 

[GingerBeerMan]

One foot on the line, the defenders are all behind it? I'd say off but hey ho.

But the ball is going backwards, which means it's not off. Here's one with a line across where Barnes is, the ball is infront of the line so I'd say conclusive proof he's onside.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

One foot on the line, the defenders are all behind it? I'd say off but hey ho.

But is he ahead of the ball? Looks in line to me.

 

[Icy Gull]

But the ball is going backwards, which means it's not off. Here's one with a line across where Barnes is, the ball is infront of the line so I'd say conclusive proof he's onside.

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True, it's certainly a tough call even with the aid of a photo.

 

[Stat Brother]

Good second goal

Why isn't a lovely passing move, culminating in a pin point first time cross, directly onto Orlandi's head, a Tikka Takka (sp) goal.

 

[Kazenga <3]

But the ball is going backwards, which means it's not off. Here's one with a line across where Barnes is, the ball is infront of the line so I'd say conclusive proof he's onside.

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The ball definitely went forward a little from Spanish Dave as Barnes was basically on the line when he tapped it in. Looks in front of the defenders= off.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

The ball definitely went forward a little from Spanish Dave as Barnes was basically on the line when he tapped it in. Looks in front of the defenders= off.

Ah. I see the problem... you dont understand the offside rule

 

[GingerBeerMan]

Ah. I see the problem... you dont understand the offside rule

This.

If the player is behind the ball when it's passed it's not offside, even if the pass is forward. Being infront of the defenders doesn't matter in this instance either.

 

[trueblue]

This really isn't that difficult. Barnes is not ahead of the ball, therefore he is onside. Where the defenders are, whether the ball was moving forward or backwards etc all irrelevant.