Wilkins DOESN'T like Robinson?

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Gully

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Apr 24, 2004
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Excellent individual performance by Jakey on Saturday, superb team performance, that is what I would prefer to concentrate on.
 




mdotw

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Aug 20, 2003
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I just think its in DW nature to not give praise too much, did you hear him after the Youth Cup win against Blackburn, you would of thought he would of been elated instead he picked them up on the negatives of that game, not once did he sound pleased during that interview.
 


Jul 5, 2003
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Life After Bobby said:
Only bit of praise? Have you read the same article?


I meant the only bit of praise for Jake.


the Realist said:
What we have to remember is the hype that met Jake a few years back when he burst onto the scene.

Did that affect Jake in any way? He has flat-lined for three years whereas others who he was way ahead of (like Coxy for example) have matured, caught him up and, dare I say it, overtaken him.

It's taken him over three years to develop to the point where he finally looks like he might reach that potential.

My take on this is that Wilkins doesn't want another load of media hype to affect Jake to the point where his development stutters once again.

Wilkins was instrumental in the development of Jake ... he then lost him for three years, during which time Jake failed to progress. Now he's got him again Jake is progressing again.

Coincidence?

Sorry, somehow misread that post when trawling through here earlier. The thread really should have ended after that, there is no way I can disagree.:clap: :thumbsup:
 


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its hard to keep your feet on the grong when youre that age, think dean is doing a good job at keepig them grounded.
yeh, it was a great performance by jake and the team, but someone has to make them aware that that is what is expected of them every week
 


Easy 10

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Well The Argus has already started comparing him with Zamora, and when Jakes been asked about whether he can repeat Bobs scoring expoloits, he's not slow in coming forward going by this interview....

"It's definitely possible," Robinson declared. "I've bided my time. Sometimes I didn't deserve to be playing but I've strengthened up. I've always been a good finisher, you should see me in training. I'm fantastic at scoring goals but with the team playing like they did I can't do anything wrong really. I'm getting the chances and I've just got to be there to put them away."

Confidence is obviously a good thing, but I think Deano is playing it just right by not going overboard with his praise for Jake. From what Robinsons coming out with, here, I think he needs to calm down a bit, concentrate on his own game, and not get carried away trying to emulate a former Albion legend.
 




It's worth remembering what the jobs entail, when we talk about football players.

"right then goallie, it's your jobs to make sure the opposition don't bang the ball into those white sticks with a net, and you centre-forward, it's your job to land the ball inside the opposition's white sticks with a net" and everything inbetween.

The glory goes to the bloke who lands the ball inside the white sticks because that looks nicest, and it causes a numerical increase awarded for the side he plays for.

That bloke seems to have to be bombarded with gibberish and overblown perspective, while he's just trying to get on with his job.

Robinson only responded with the right, and best response, and gave full credit to the whole team. I don't see that requiring any attitude adjustment Easy 10, or a need to "calm down" ??
 


Easy 10

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I don't see any major probs here NMH, don't get me wrong. But the line:

"I've bided my time. Sometimes I didn't deserve to be playing but I've strengthened up. I've always been a good finisher, you should see me in training. I'm fantastic at scoring goals"

just had me raising an eyebrow, because he's talking as though he's cracked it. Yes, he's hit a nice little purple patch of goals, and long may it continue. But as well all know, it doesn't take a lot for the Hype Machine to click into overdrive, and I'd rather Jake didn't get too carried away with his current flush of form. I'm happy at how Wendy ISN'T going overboard on Jakes performances, thats all.
 






Easy 10 said:
I don't see any major probs here NMH, don't get me wrong. But the line:

"I've bided my time. Sometimes I didn't deserve to be playing but I've strengthened up. I've always been a good finisher, you should see me in training. I'm fantastic at scoring goals"

just had me raising an eyebrow, because he's talking as though he's cracked it. Yes, he's hit a nice little purple patch of goals, and long may it continue. But as well all know, it doesn't take a lot for the Hype Machine to click into overdrive, and I'd rather Jake didn't get too carried away with his current flush of form. I'm happy at how Wendy ISN'T going overboard on Jakes performances, thats all.

Indeed. It appears that DW isn't suddenly effervessing at the mouth and waxing poetic, thankfully. The fans do that enough. I hope Jakester gets on with it like Wardy did in his heyday, bangin' 'em in game after game.
 


paddy

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Withdean Wanderer said:
Now, I've heard on here that he's a crap trainer, I know he fell out with Dean White when he turned up for a reserves match a couple of years back. Does he have an unprofessional attitude? Maybe.

I have also heard from people that he doesn't put as much effort in as he perhaps should do, and if he had done, he would be a far better player than he already is. Until this season he has never really been a regular and as i understand this is largely due to his training. It may just be beacuse he is quite young.
 


Turkey

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Jul 4, 2003
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Easy 10 said:
Well The Argus has already started comparing him with Zamora, and when Jakes been asked about whether he can repeat Bobs scoring expoloits, he's not slow in coming forward going by this interview....

"It's definitely possible," Robinson declared. "I've bided my time. Sometimes I didn't deserve to be playing but I've strengthened up. I've always been a good finisher, you should see me in training. I'm fantastic at scoring goals but with the team playing like they did I can't do anything wrong really. I'm getting the chances and I've just got to be there to put them away."

Confidence is obviously a good thing, but I think Deano is playing it just right by not going overboard with his praise for Jake. From what Robinsons coming out with, here, I think he needs to calm down a bit, concentrate on his own game, and not get carried away trying to emulate a former Albion legend.

To be fair, the Zamora thing was obviously a question thrown at him. You can only blame the media for getting carried away in that respect.

As for having faith in his own ability. Good. Do you want a striker going out there thinking 'Oooo I'm not very good at this scoring lark'? Course not, you want someone out their with the confidence to hit the back of the net time and time again.
 




Turkey said:
To be fair, the Zamora thing was obviously a question thrown at him. You can only blame the media for getting carried away in that respect.

As for having faith in his own ability. Good. Do you want a striker going out there thinking 'Oooo I'm not very good at this scoring lark'? Course not, you want someone out their with the confidence to hit the back of the net time and time again.

You want him thinking "I only scored three, I must do better than that"
 


BensGrandad

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Could this upsurge in JR form not be due to the fact that we are now playing to his strengths putting the ball intoa space for him to run on to asd opposed to long high balls fora 6ft 6 in centre forward to chase. Who is responsible for this change DW. Well done to all keep it going.
 


Buzzer

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BensGrandad said:
Could this upsurge in JR form not be due to the fact that we are now playing to his strengths putting the ball intoa space for him to run on to asd opposed to long high balls fora 6ft 6 in centre forward to chase. Who is responsible for this change DW. Well done to all keep it going.

what he said.
 




I only wonder why it took so long to realise the obvious. Playing hoofs over the top to midget forwards, playing lads in positions they weren't comfortable with?

Even DW seems to have carried on the Magoo tactics for a while, you'd have thought he would've changed things right away.
 




NMH said:
I only wonder why it took so long to realise the obvious. Playing hoofs over the top to midget forwards, playing lads in positions they weren't comfortable with?

Even DW seems to have carried on the Magoo tactics for a while, you'd have thought he would've changed things right away.

Well, Wilkins did immediately switch to 4-4-2. Anyone could see that Revell should have been playing as a striker and that Hammond was lost in a three/five man midfield.

The things is, Wilkins didn't have the time to bring in properly his own training regime, his own methods until before the Blackpool game at the beginning of October. We did, after all, play 8 games in September. Since Blackpool, won 4, draw 1
 
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Jul 5, 2003
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Well, he praised him yesterday.

I take it all back.

:clap: :clap:
 




paulclark

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robinsons had his go and not progressed we need as striker and midfield ball winner quikly adams tactiks at home are crap

wonder what dk says now also about steven hunt who he refused to pay 5k for and iwelhoumo who he reduced his wages and let him go
 


blockhseagull

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Jan 30, 2006
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robinsons had his go and not progressed we need as striker and midfield ball winner quikly adams tactiks at home are crap

wonder what dk says now also about steven hunt who he refused to pay 5k for and iwelhoumo who he reduced his wages and let him go


The bit about hunt isn't true

Would have gone to tribunal and i believe could have cost us over 100k if it hadn't gone our way
 


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