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Lady Whistledown

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**** is from the Grope **** Lane in London where the ladies of the night used to hang out in the olden days !! APPARENTLY !!


Hmmm. How exactly would you name a street after the act of groping a lady's, ahem, special area, if the word for the special area didn't already exist prior to that?
<scratches head>
 


Superphil

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Variations include Gropecunte, Gropecountelane, Gropecontelane, Groppecountelane and Gropekuntelane. There were once many such street names in England, but all have now been bowdlerised.

London had several streets named Gropecunt Lane including one in the parishes of St Pancras and St Mary Colchirche, between Bordhawelane (bordello) and Puppekirty Lane (poke skirt) near present-day Cheapside. First recorded in 1279 as Gropecontelane and Groppecountelane, it was part of a collection of streets which appears to have survived as a small island of prostitution outside Southwark, where such activities were normally confined during the medieval period.
 


Superphil

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Hmmm. How exactly would you name a street after the act of groping a lady's, ahem, special area, if the word for the special area didn't already exist prior to that?
<scratches head>

The first record of the word grope being used in the indecent sense of sexual touching appears in 1380; c**t has been used to describe the vulva since at least 1230, and corresponds to the Old Norse kunta.
 






Superphil

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The word in its modern meaning is attested in Middle English. Proverbs of Hendyng, a manuscript from some time before 1325, includes the advice:

Ȝeue þi cunte to cunnig and craue affetir wedding.
(Give your c**t wisely and make (your) demands after the wedding.)
 


Surrey_Albion

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some say f*** was Full Unlawful Carnal Knowledge as you shouldnt have known about it, but I was always led to beleive they are all old Anglo Saxon and Nordic words words which were outlawed by the Roman along with paganism etc, The Romans did not like the use of these words as they were inpolite because they were used by pesants and previoyus conquerers and the Romans wanted us to do things their way some of which was getting rid of our language some of which, as already stated ,were direived from Germanic,norse and Saxon
 


Tricky Dicky

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Henry V included a reference to the French cutting off longbowmen's fingers in a pre-battle speech, the story was around at the time of Agincourt, although it does not necessarily mean that the French practised it, just that Henry found it useful for propaganda, and it does not show that the two-fingered salute is derived from the hypothetical behaviour of English archers at that battle.

According to QI, there are no references to the 'V' sign being a taunt to the French that the archers have still got their fingers, prior to the 1970s and is assumed to be a very modern story.
 




Pbseagull

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Not exactly a swear word but the word "Shit" goes back to the days when manure was transported by ship. Manure gives off methane which is flammable when moist and would often explode if stored in the hull of a ship, so when it was being packed they would chalk the abbreviation of " Store High in Transit" on the side of the crates. S.H.I.T
 


Tricky Dicky

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Not exactly a swear word but the word "Shit" goes back to the days when manure was transported by ship. Manure gives off methane which is flammable when moist and would often explode if stored in the hull of a ship, so when it was being packed they would chalk the abbreviation of " Store High in Transit" on the side of the crates. S.H.I.T

A popular myth, I think. Not true.
 


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Lady Whistledown

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The word in its modern meaning is attested in Middle English. Proverbs of Hendyng, a manuscript from some time before 1325, includes the advice:

Ȝeue þi cunte to cunnig and craue affetir wedding.
(Give your c**t wisely and make (your) demands after the wedding.)

I remember reading a bit of Chaucer's Canterbury Tales while doing English Literature A Level years ago. The Miller's Tale, written in Middle English (I think it was anyway) contained various uses of the word queynte, which the accompanying notes suggested was the contemporary version of c**t. How we sniggered.

:lol:
 


dennis

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Found this on Wikipedia:

Gropecunt Lane ( /ˈɡroʊpkʌnt ˈleɪn/) was a street name found in English towns and cities during the Middle Ages, believed to be a reference to the prostitution centred on those areas; it was normal practice for a medieval street name to reflect the street's function or the economic activity taking place within it. Gropecunt, the earliest known use of which is in about 1230, appears to have been derived as a compound of the words grope and ****. Streets with that name were often in the busiest parts of medieval towns and cities, and at least one appears to have been an important thoroughfare.

Although the name was once common throughout England, changes in attitude resulted in its replacement by more innocuous versions such as Grape Lane. Gropecunt was last recorded as a street name in 1561.
 






e77

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Aren't berk and the c bomb both descended from 'Berkhamstead Hunt'?
 










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I did read one of his dictionaries once, every profanity you have ever heard and many that you haven't, all explained in scholarly terms.
 


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