West Ham to move into the Olympic Stadium in 2016

[Herr Tubthumper]

Spurs are a North London Club - If Brighton had Palace move into Brighton we would be up in arms. And before you start about Orient - West Ham are the only club in Newham. The Olympic Stadium is in Newham and all they are doing is renting it for 28 days - whats the problem?

Tax payers money is my problem. They have enough dosh to pay for the conversion themselves.

 

[Triggaaar]

Spurs didnt bid for it you buffoon

Look - let me explain - Spurs bid and West HAm won

I think you've said enough.

 

[Cat Fish]

That is a bid. They planned to develop Crystal Palace.

So who were the 4 bids - given that you've just stated that Spurs didn't bid.

The 4 Bids Were

West Ham
Leyton Orient (wanted it for free)
Formulae one - even though no race exists
Bucks University _ Wanted to use offices for Football Business courses



What do you think they should have chosen?

 

[Cat Fish]

I think you've said enough.

What an idiot you are

Spurs did not bid the second time as they were not interested!!!!!

 

[Triggaaar]

What an idiot you are

Spurs did not bid the second time as they were not interested!!!!!

I wasn't talking about the 2nd bids. Spurs did bid for the stadium, and their bid was better for the taxpayer than West Ham's bid. That's what we're talking about here. The govt. etc turned Spurs down to save face, but that was not necessarily the best decision for the taxpayer. All you seem to be able to do is get your facts wrong and hurl abuse.

 

[Cat Fish]

Tax payers money is my problem. They have enough dosh to pay for the conversion themselves.

Understand your issues with that but the reality is they need the roof for concerts and they need retractable seating for teh Rugby World Cup - Without these changes no one would use this White Elephant. However they also have a tennent willing to pay around £5 million a year (Rent, naming rights share, catering share) to rent it for 28 days for 100 years which works out at £500,000,000 PLUS anything they receive for the remaining 340ish days a year West Ham dont use it! Its a good deal!!!!!

If you can think of another one tell us as no one on this sight has come up with a viable alternative!

 

[Cat Fish]

I wasn't talking about the 2nd bids. Spurs did bid for the stadium, and their bid was better for the taxpayer than West Ham's bid. That's what we're talking about here. The govt. etc turned Spurs down to save face, but that was not necessarily the best decision for the taxpayer. All you seem to be able to do is get your facts wrong and hurl abuse.

Triggaaar - It wasnt a goer - Spurs would not have been alowed to move into West Ham borough anyway. The OLC promised a legacy stadium so it was impossible for Spurs to win the original bid because it A) Didnt fulfill the legacy and B) Would have broken Premiership rules of them moving into West Hams Borough making it impossible anyway.

Does that make sense?

 

[Cat Fish]

I wasn't talking about the 2nd bids. Spurs did bid for the stadium, and their bid was better for the taxpayer than West Ham's bid. That's what we're talking about here. The govt. etc turned Spurs down to save face, but that was not necessarily the best decision for the taxpayer. All you seem to be able to do is get your facts wrong and hurl abuse.

And Triggaaar tell me where my facts are wrong as only seems to be me that has my facts right!

 

[Triggaaar]

And Triggaaar tell me where my facts are wrong as only seems to be me that has my facts right!

Here:

You didnt answer the last question

If West Ham do not rent the stadium what do you propose is a financially viable alternative?

Spurs were offering a better deal to the taxpayers.

Spurs didnt bid for it you buffoon

Look - let me explain - Spurs bid and West HAm won

So you asked what we propose is a financially viable alternative, and when you get an answer you say Spurs didn't bid, but then you accept that they actually did bid - and suddenly you must have been talking about 2nd bids, which wasn't relevant to the conversation.

 

[Cat Fish]

Here:





So you asked what we propose is a financially viable alternative, and when you get an answer you say Spurs didn't bid, but then you accept that they actually did bid - and suddenly you must have been talking about 2nd bids, which wasn't relevant to the conversation.

Spurs were NOT in the bidding process to be considered to rent the stadium. Is this too much for you to comprehend?

Also you are editing my posts to score points which makes you rather sad.

 

[Cat Fish]

Here:





So you asked what we propose is a financially viable alternative, and when you get an answer you say Spurs didn't bid, but then you accept that they actually did bid - and suddenly you must have been talking about 2nd bids, which wasn't relevant to the conversation.

London 2012 Olympics: plan to hold Formula One race in and around Olympic Stadium on bid shortlist - Telegraph

Read that Triggaaar and show me Spurs being considered

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Understand your issues with that but the reality is they need the roof for concerts and they need retractable seating for teh Rugby World Cup - Without these changes no one would use this White Elephant. However they also have a tennent willing to pay around £5 million a year (Rent, naming rights share, catering share) to rent it for 28 days for 100 years which works out at £500,000,000 PLUS anything they receive for the remaining 340ish days a year West Ham dont use it! Its a good deal!!!!!

If you can think of another one tell us as no one on this sight has come up with a viable alternative!

I'm not sure you do need a roof for concerts. And the retractable seats are primarily for West Ham's use. The Rugby is only a once-in-a-blue-moon event.

What's going to happen to Upton Park then?

 

[8ace]

Maybe they could build a massive mosque on the site of Upton Park

 

[Cat Fish]

I'm not sure you do need a roof for concerts. And the retractable seats are primarily for West Ham's use. The Rugby is only a once-in-a-blue-moon event.

What's going to happen to Upton Park then?

No idea mate

Thing is West Ham wanted to buy it and keep the legacy promise and Levy and Hearn blocked that move so everything had to be retended but remaining as state owned.

Under those circumstances West Ham remianed the best deal for the government and when you look at the figure over the lease terms its not that bad a deal.

I know it seems West Ham is getting something for nothing but they are also taking a big risk financial as they will have nothing to secure debt against as the dont own a ground.

Personally I just dont understand the West Ham hating as its the government or more the OLC that created the mess.

Martin Samuels sums it up probably better than I can

Martin Samuel: West Ham moving to the Olympic Stadium is the ONLY option aside from a bulldozer | Mail Online

 

[Cat Fish]

Maybe they could build a massive mosque on the site of Upton Park

I think that is an option

 

[Socialist Sid]

The 4 Bids Were

West Ham
Leyton Orient (wanted it for free)
Formulae one - even though no race exists
Bucks University _ Wanted to use offices for Football Business courses



What do you think they should have chosen?

Catfish, please don't think I'm being forward here but are you a closet iron?

 

[Cat Fish]

Catfish, please don't think I'm being forward here but are you a closet iron?

No Im not a closet Iron.


However I cant bare to read misinformed knee jerking comments with no basis in fact!

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Personally I just dont understand the West Ham hating

Horrible supporter base? Sleazy owners? Long ball tactics?

 

[Triggaaar]

Spurs were NOT in the bidding process to be considered to rent the stadium. Is this too much for you to comprehend?

Spurs were in the bidding process for what to do with the stadium. Who said anything about renting.

Also you are editing my posts to score points which makes you rather sad.

WTF? You asked me to show you were you got your facts wrong, so I did.

Read that Triggaaar and show me Spurs being considered

Again, WTF has that got to do with anything? That is after the first bid. Spurs were one of the options for the stadium.

 

[Socialist Sid]

Horrible supporter base? Sleazy owners? Long ball tactics?

Karen Brady is my sort of sleaze