[Football] West ham and Potter

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GloryDays

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He’s got a French international in goal, a £40m CB, a CM who was about to move to City for £80m, 2 genuinely international quality wingers in Kudus and Bowen, and Germany’s main striking option, but yeah, shit squad.

He did more with Locadia than he’s doing with West Ham’s riches.

That squad needs a huge overhaul and I think Kudus being there is a curse, personally. If that squad got relegated no one would be surprised. They’ve been treading water for some time and are desperately in need of modernisation IMO.
 




Simster

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Jul 7, 2003
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I was there for every game at the Amex. The club flourished despite him, not because of him. Where exactly were you for Plodder's previous two full seasons?
Good Lord :lolol:

His last 25 matches were brilliant, as were the next 40 under De Zerbi. It's really that simple.

Blaming him for two prior seasons :lolol: Because obviously Hughton left a picture perfect set up for him.
 


Terry Butcher Tribute Act

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Good Lord :lolol:

His last 25 matches were brilliant, as were the next 40 under De Zerbi. It's really that simple.

Blaming him for two prior seasons :lolol: Because obviously Hughton left a picture perfect set up for him.
GPot's last 15 games were brilliant, if we're being honest. If we go back 25 then it includes him losing 6 on the spin and drawing at home to Norwich.
 


Weststander

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GPot's last 15 games were brilliant, if we're being honest. If we go back 25 then it includes him losing 6 on the spin and drawing at home to Norwich.

12 of 14 games were.

People always add on a few more for good measure :lol: .
 




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Good Lord :lolol:

His last 25 matches were brilliant, as were the next 40 under De Zerbi. It's really that simple.

Blaming him for two prior seasons :lolol: Because obviously Hughton left a picture perfect set up for him.

The 4 home games before lockdown were poor.

The game against Villa was just stupid.

Propper was doing a number on Grealish.... Effectively taking both of them out of the game. Negating their key player. Davy was constantly moving around, cutting off their options to get their best player on the ball. Neither player touched the ball much for 70minutes or so and then Potter made changes and took Propper off of Grealish duty, put Montoya on and stuffed the back line. 1-0 up with a quarter of an hour to go.


It was so f***ing stupid
 


saafend_seagull

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Really need them to at least draw v Bournemouth. Makes top 8 very possible which will be conference league if palace don’t win the fa cup.
 


Hometownglory

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12 of 14 games were.

People always add on a few more for good measure :lol: .
They do. He had a strong finish and a good start within his final few months. The other two years were frustrating, goal limited events.
West Ham lose today, hell need to start dusting off his tin hat.
 




Commander

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Good Lord :lolol:

His last 25 matches were brilliant, as were the next 40 under De Zerbi. It's really that simple.

Blaming him for two prior seasons :lolol: Because obviously Hughton left a picture perfect set up for him.
He has never been able to understand that the job that needed doing to completely transform our entire way of playing from 'backs-to-the-wall stay in the Premier League at all costs' to 'expansive, attacking football regularly challenging for European qualification" isn't something you can do overnight. And that Potter doing it in 2.5 seasons without ever having us even close to being in danger of getting relegated, was a very impressive achievement. In fact, I'd argue that it's never actually been successfully done in the Premier League before.

The idea that RDZ could have taken on that Hughton squad and done what he did with us in a season or two is absolutely laughable. Potter set that squad up for him perfectly. As usual, it was a masterstroke by Bloom to hire the right men at the right time.
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

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He has never been able to understand that the job that needed doing to completely transform our entire way of playing from 'backs-to-the-wall stay in the Premier League at all costs' to 'expansive, attacking football regularly challenging for European qualification" isn't something you can do overnight. And that Potter doing it in 2.5 seasons without ever having us even close to being in danger of getting relegated, was a very impressive achievement. In fact, I'd argue that it's never actually been successfully done in the Premier League before.

The idea that RDZ could have taken on that Hughton squad and done what he did with us in a season or two is absolutely laughable. Potter set that squad up for him perfectly. As usual, it was a masterstroke by Bloom to hire the right men at the right time.
Pure after-timing projection. There's not another chairman in the EPL who would have given Plodder a third season to luck into some kind of rhythm with that set of players at his disposal. There will always be some kind of excuse as to why he won't be able to luck into the same kind of rhythm anywhere else. Couldn't do it at Chelsea, isn't doing it at West Ham, won't do it at his next job that is commutable from Hove. He really isn't very good. His entire managerial CV screams mediocrity
 


Justice

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Pure after-timing projection. There's not another chairman in the EPL who would have given Plodder a third season to luck into some kind of rhythm with that set of players at his disposal. There will always be some kind of excuse as to why he won't be able to luck into the same kind of rhythm anywhere else. Couldn't do it at Chelsea, isn't doing it at West Ham, won't do it at his next job that is commutable from Hove. He really isn't very good. His entire managerial CV screams mediocrity
Whatever he does there is a reason why his sides rarely score, personally I think the transitions aren’t quick enough plodding through the lines won’t get you many goals.
 




Justice

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12 of 14 games were.

People always add on a few more for good measure :lol: .
His light bulb moment was playing Caceido up until that point it was nothing to write home about.
With a midfield of Mac, Moises, Bissouma defensively Cucurella, Veltman, Dunk, Webster with Trossard & Welbeck plus March in attack how he went on that massive winless streak was quite an incredible feat.
 


JBizzle

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Pure after-timing projection. There's not another chairman in the EPL who would have given Plodder a third season to luck into some kind of rhythm with that set of players at his disposal. There will always be some kind of excuse as to why he won't be able to luck into the same kind of rhythm anywhere else. Couldn't do it at Chelsea, isn't doing it at West Ham, won't do it at his next job that is commutable from Hove. He really isn't very good. His entire managerial CV screams mediocrity
Two things. On the bit in bold, no, there isn't, but that's why we have the best chairman in the league. He's not some fan making kneejerk reactions, and RDZ got an amazing opportunity to pick up a team in fine fettle.

On how he does at other clubs? Not really that bothered. He was a necessary appointment here that took us from A to B and I don't think there are many people inside the club that agree with your sentiment.
 


Justice

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Two things. On the bit in bold, no, there isn't, but that's why we have the best chairman in the league. He's not some fan making kneejerk reactions, and RDZ got an amazing opportunity to pick up a team in fine fettle.

On how he does at other clubs? Not really that bothered. He was a necessary appointment here that took us from A to B and I don't think there are many people inside the club that agree with your sentiment.
Would can arguably say RDZ completely changed the tactics and turned the side into one of the top scoring teams in Europe. He didn’t just pick up from where Potter left the side.
It took him a few games for the players to understand what he wanted, we then ironically smashed Potters Chelsea and marched into Europe.
Anyone you thinks Potter v RDZ’s tactics were similar needs to go to specsavers.
 


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GT49er

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Pure after-timing projection. There's not another chairman in the EPL who would have given Plodder a third season to luck into some kind of rhythm with that set of players at his disposal. There will always be some kind of excuse as to why he won't be able to luck into the same kind of rhythm anywhere else. Couldn't do it at Chelsea, isn't doing it at West Ham, won't do it at his next job that is commutable from Hove. He really isn't very good. His entire managerial CV screams mediocrity
I would question who is doing the after-timing. How come the reaction of the vast majority when Chelsea came calling was, "NOOooo!' - our collective mojo slumped to the floor; we were buggered - just as we were getting somewhere bloody Chelsea come in and steal our manager. It was NOT regarded as good news! There might have been the odd voice or two in the wilderness (probably yours) shouting hallelujah and good riddance, but the idea that everyone was heaving a sigh of relief when 'Plodder' left us 4th. in the League and playing beautifully definitely looks like after-timing!
 


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