It is now. What does it say?
[Politics] Well done Kier
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I would have preferred Kier to tell him to do one. We can argue the merits of this deal, but why should anyone trust Trump to actually go through with this?
Cheshire Cat
The most curious thing..
Thanks. Interesting.
Mustafa II
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Yep, and that is EXACTLY why democracy doesn't work anymore. People have just become too thick.
Charisma is more important to the electorate now, than the actual ability to do the job.
If Farage doesn't get in next, then it'll likely be some random celebrity like the states.
It's a shame, because Starmer's performing so well. He's actually achieving goals and keeping his promises, for a change.
...but because the right-wing press is so influencial, and people are so gullible/thick, people fail to appreciate his work as 'hE hAs No ChAriZma"
I would like to see a view other educated people's thoughts before deciding if it's a good deal or not.
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Selected excerpts from the article.
“How much legal structure will this deal have?” a trade lawyer at a prominent firm asked me yesterday, gesturing at the detritus of a meeting on the conference table in front of him. “About the same as this napkin.”
Not even the architects of the trade deal announced between the US and the UK would call it a thing of economic or legal beauty. Seemingly without even a signed document — and designed purely to escape the tariffs that Donald Trump imposed on steel and cars — the pact is closer to a protection payment to a mob boss than a liberalising agreement between sovereign countries.
This new agreement poses risks to the UK, before even considering the wider implications. Given how eager the UK was to make a deal, there’s no guarantee that Trump won’t come back for more. As per the poet Rudyard Kipling, the thing about Dane-geld — the protection money with which kings in medieval Anglo-Saxon England bought off Viking invaders — is that “once you have paid him the Dane-geld, you never get rid of the Dane”.
During his first term, trading partners could do ad hoc deals with Trump, such as the US’s “phase one” agreement with China, and be reasonably sure they would stick. But as Canada and Mexico can attest, second-term Trump is more capricious and liable to alter a deal after it has supposedly been agreed. Those countries’ pledges to clamp down on fentanyl smuggling were first accepted and then summarily rejected by Trump, despite the absolute lack of evidence in Canada’s case that such smuggling existed on a noticeable scale.
This agreement with the UK is supposed to be followed by a full trade agreement over the next year, but the country has now put itself in a weak bargaining position over that as well. Trump can withdraw these concessions at any time if those talks don’t go his way.
The UK can make a political choice, certainly. It can opt to pay the Dane. It’s managed to escape the worst of the Trump tariffs for the moment. But the promise that post-Brexit Britain would prove to be an unshakeable anchor of the rules-based international trading system looks weaker today than it did before.
bluenitsuj
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I guess you are joking.Credit where credit is due, two trade deals in a week, USA and India. Well done PM
I personally can’t believe anyone in Trump’s circle could negotiate their way out of a paper bag but yes, we will see.
bluenitsuj
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Is he dead?
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No, why would I be joking.
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
shhh…give them a day to be happy, before reality dawns
That's what I did.
I have no time for headbangers, revolutionaries, shysters, chancers or idealogues,
that's before you get to big fat f***ing liars like Johnson, and thick-as-mince cheese-sniffers like Truss.
Dull and steady, unruffled either by President Fred Karno, or tit-witch Badenough.
Nasal of voice and startled of demeanour, no problem.
It's all about decisions.
Sorry. What am I thinking.
It's a betrayal of the people to even speak to Trump.
We should of declared trade war!
Margaret Thatcher (bless her) would never of caved in
Only Boris or Nigel have the man-balls to lead this nation,
ruined after ten long months of Labour misrule.
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
jaw jaw before war war, Shirley?
And I think we need to see whether Trump can stick to a deal before going to war.
"Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action”"
Yes, Vance had to hang him up on the hatstand.
You really really really have to be joking?