UKIP party conference

[somerset]

Not sure capitalism has done much for family social life , Sunday always used to be for families to get together , now so many people work or watch sky sports down the pub so takes away the family environment . Bring back Sunday closing !! No chance so many large corporates have so much influence on the governments .

So tell me, what came first, the corporate retail model, or the demand that drove their creation?

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Not sure capitalism has done much for family social life , Sunday always used to be for families to get together , now so many people work or watch sky sports down the pub so takes away the family environment . Bring back Sunday closing !! No chance so many large corporates have so much influence on the governments .

I remember Sunday closing. I will always consider Sunday a day of rest. Call me old fashioned but I don't think business has any place on a Sunday. It should be all shut like it used to be, but like you say Businesses have so much influence. I do feel sorry for people who work in retail, they have possibly the worst working hours of the lot especially over xmas when people want to be with family and friends.

I actually find it disrepectful when companies phone or post stuff through my letterbox on a Sunday, which is what happened last week. Honestly I think it showed a lack of education and manners that they sent the bloke flyering in the first place.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

The absence of 65 % of the electorate from the poll tells us one thing, the vast majority of the UK is happy with the 'status quo'. And happy to NOT bother with a referendum. And happy to see the EU wrecked from within.

Or people feel that their vote has no bearing on how the Parliament is run ?

Or people realise that the real power is held by the European Commission and the electorate have no vote on who is appointed to that ?

It's far too simple to say that if you don't vote you shouldn't have a say - there's something called abstention and it's a perfectly valid democratic stance.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

I remember Sunday closing. I will always consider Sunday a day of rest. Call me old fashioned but I don't think business has any place on a Sunday. It should be all shut like it used to be, but like you say Businesses have so much influence. I do feel sorry for people who work in retail, they have possibly the worst working hours of the lot especially over xmas when people want to be with family and friends.

I actually find it disrepectful when companies phone or post stuff through my letterbox on a Sunday, which is what happened last week. Honestly I think it showed a lack of education and manners that they sent the bloke flyering in the first place.

So you've never been out for a drink or a family meal at a restaurant on a Sunday ?

Personally I think Sunday hours should be scrapped. I used to work in hotels and my favourite day to work was Sunday - a. most customers were happy because they were relaxed and a side effect of that was bigger tips, b. I got my day off during the week when every other bugger was at work. I also loved working Christmas Day. Some might not like working those days but if you go into an industry such as retail or catering you can hardly complain as it's been like it for years.

 

[Machiavelli]

Or people feel that their vote has no bearing on how the Parliament is run ?

Or people realise that the real power is held by the European Commission and the electorate have no vote on who is appointed to that ?

It's far too simple to say that if you don't vote you shouldn't have a say - there's something called abstention and it's a perfectly valid democratic stance.

Agree with most of this Westdene: whatever is the world coming to?

 

[Machiavelli]

I remember Sunday closing. I will always consider Sunday a day of rest. Call me old fashioned but I don't think business has any place on a Sunday. It should be all shut like it used to be, but like you say Businesses have so much influence. I do feel sorry for people who work in retail, they have possibly the worst working hours of the lot especially over xmas when people want to be with family and friends.

I actually find it disrepectful when companies phone or post stuff through my letterbox on a Sunday, which is what happened last week. Honestly I think it showed a lack of education and manners that they sent the bloke flyering in the first place.

OK. You're old-fashioned. Anything else I can do for you?

 

[piersa]

I remember Sunday closing. I will always consider Sunday a day of rest. Call me old fashioned but I don't think business has any place on a Sunday. It should be all shut like it used to be, but like you say Businesses have so much influence. I do feel sorry for people who work in retail, they have possibly the worst working hours of the lot especially over xmas when people want to be with family and friends.

I actually find it disrepectful when companies phone or post stuff through my letterbox on a Sunday, which is what happened last week. Honestly I think it showed a lack of education and manners that they sent the bloke flyering in the first place.

You have a choice to go out on Sunday. If you are offended by someone putting something through your letterbox on a Sunday, this says more about you than the Sunday trading law.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

OK. You're old-fashioned. Anything else I can do for you?

Yes keep your elbows off the table, and don't start your meal before everyone else has sat down and started. And no mobile phones at the table either.

 

[Machiavelli]

Yes keep your elbows off the table, and don't start your meal before everyone else has sat down and started. And no mobile phones at the table either.

Currently have a mobile phone, but no elbow, on my desk. Won't have lunch for an hour or so, but it'll be on my own.

 

[MattBackHome]

Currently have a mobile phone, but no elbow, on my desk. Won't have lunch for an hour or so, but it'll be on my own.

I'm in the same situation - and I'm SLOUCHING in my chair.

 

[thisistips]

I remember Sunday closing. I will always consider Sunday a day of rest. Call me old fashioned but I don't think business has any place on a Sunday. It should be all shut like it used to be, but like you say Businesses have so much influence. I do feel sorry for people who work in retail, they have possibly the worst working hours of the lot especially over xmas when people want to be with family and friends.

I actually find it disrepectful when companies phone or post stuff through my letterbox on a Sunday, which is what happened last week. Honestly I think it showed a lack of education and manners that they sent the bloke flyering in the first place.

In switzerland nothing is open on Sundays except museums and a few restaurants. The net result is that it's a family day, where you do things like walk in the hills or have a dinner, or both. I remember Sunday closing in the UK. When it went I was generally happy. Now that we don't have it I see what we lost in the UK.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Agree with most of this Westdene: whatever is the world coming to?

Sh*t - I need to go and have a sit down !

 

[Czechmate]

So tell me, what came first, the corporate retail model, or the demand that drove their creation?

Nothing drove it as nothing was open to compare , only probably DIY and garden shops . I guess it was a mixture of corporate idea and government thinking of the extra taxes it could collect . If people are happy with it then fine but to me looking at it now , people have not as much time to socialising with family . Just my opinion !

 

[Czechmate]

So you've never been out for a drink or a family meal at a restaurant on a Sunday ?

Personally I think Sunday hours should be scrapped. I used to work in hotels and my favourite day to work was Sunday - a. most customers were happy because they were relaxed and a side effect of that was bigger tips, b. I got my day off during the week when every other bugger was at work. I also loved working Christmas Day. Some might not like working those days but if you go into an industry such as retail or catering you can hardly complain as it's been like it for years.

Pubs used to shut about 2pm then open again at 7pm . Think restaurants were the same can't remember .

 

[somerset]

Nothing drove it as nothing was open to compare , only probably DIY and garden shops . I guess it was a mixture of corporate idea and government thinking of the extra taxes it could collect . If people are happy with it then fine but to me looking at it now , people have not as much time to socialising with family . Just my opinion !

Let me give you a clue,....it was public demand that drove it, it was public demand that pushed for deregulation of opening times.

 

[Dr Bandler]

Sunday

In switzerland nothing is open on Sundays except museums and a few restaurants. The net result is that it's a family day, where you do things like walk in the hills or have a dinner, or both. I remember Sunday closing in the UK. When it went I was generally happy. Now that we don't have it I see what we lost in the UK.

You are very right. I live in Zurich and the whole country is much more geared towards family time. It is like a throwback to the UK many years ago. I also like the fact that getting hopelessly drunk doesnt seem to even be considered as something to do (even though I used to do it).

 

[Bladders]

I remember those Sundays, the most mind numbingly boring day of the week.

Nothing open and if you put the telly on it was Countryfile of Songs of Praise, or some other boring Sunday turd nobody wanted to watch.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Pubs used to shut about 2pm then open again at 7pm . Think restaurants were the same can't remember .

Indeed they did but we used that close time for cleaning and re-stocking. With restaurants you would do a split shift, 4 hours for lunchtime and then 4 hours in the evening for dinner.

 

[Czechmate]

Let me give you a clue,....it was public demand that drove it, it was public demand that pushed for deregulation of opening times.

My point was , if you look at my first post that Sunday opening hasn't really helped family togetherness in my view , may not be yours but then do we agree on anything ?

Still no news on the black box voice recordings ? last I heard was that the plane was asked to divert it's course and fly a lot lower so a Ukraine air force plane could fly behind it so it wouldn't be noticed , surely the pilots voice would tell this but we hear nothing .

I wait your next argument , but for now I have work to do .

 

[somerset]

My point was , if you look at my first post that Sunday opening hasn't really helped family togetherness in my view ......

It hasn't affected mine, we still allocate quality time, instead now we can choose when it happens, because the previous rigidity of opening times alongside work demands meant we were limited to small windows of opportunity, often being pushed aside because we weren't all available.....