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Hamilton

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I'm angry and frustrated ? Says you who resorts to silly pictures to try and win the argument, it's down in black and white what you said , wriggle as much as you like but you've been proved to have said it.

Excellent. Please provide the black and white statements that show I'm somehow pointing the finger blame at any particular reason. Of course, you'll be unable to do so, so save yourself the time. Instead, spend the time searching for anger management courses.
 










Triggaaar

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What does she get in paradise?
 




carlzeiss

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symyjym

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The irony of all this is that our Government, namely with Cameron, Hague and Hammond on top of the list, turned a blind eye to all those going to Syria because they thought they were joining the so called moderate rebels to overthrow Assad. It was only when we found out that they had joined ISIS that we became concerned.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/l...be-radicalised-in-syria-mp-warns-8052848.html

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/sep/23/syria-foreign-fighters-joining-war

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...e-British-jihadi-who-died-fighting-Assad.html

We had a choice of supporting peaceful reform in Syria or spout war mongering rhetoric and provoke Syrian unrest. Typically though we chose the irrational option, which means that everything that comes from it is as equally or far more irrational.
 


Boy Blue

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The irony of all this is that our Government, namely with Cameron, Hague and Hammond on top of the list, turned a blind eye to all those going to Syria because they thought they were joining the so called moderate rebels to overthrow Assad. It was only when we found out that they had joined ISIS that we became concerned.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/l...be-radicalised-in-syria-mp-warns-8052848.html

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/sep/23/syria-foreign-fighters-joining-war

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...e-British-jihadi-who-died-fighting-Assad.html

We had a choice of supporting peaceful reform in Syria or spout war mongering rhetoric and provoke Syrian unrest. Typically though we chose the irrational option, which means that everything that comes from it is as equally or far more irrational.

There's no such thing as moderate rebel or moderate Muslim.
 








Boy Blue

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That's why I said "the so called moderate rebels".

I disagree that all Muslims are extreme. Moderates are generally Quranists and they don't understand the life of Muhammad. They have grown up believing that he was a lovely chap and comparable to Jesus.

Amercia Apache helicopter giving ISIS fighters save passage into Syria. America and Britain armed them so they could get rid of Asad but it backfired, instead they've raped and murdered thousands of civillans. Camereon and Obama thought they were moderate rebels :facepalm:

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symyjym

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He was an Ahmadiyya Muslim. It's quite an interesting sect;

"The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is the leading Islamic organization to categorically reject terrorism in any form. Over a century ago, Ahmad(as) emphatically declared that an aggressive “jihad by the sword” has no place in Islam. In its place, he taught his followers to wage a bloodless, intellectual “jihad of the pen” to defend Islam. "

https://www.alislam.org/introduction/

There are 72 different sects to Islam but Ahmadiyya is probably the most advanced form of Islam in its specific declaration.
 


The Clamp

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He was an Ahmadiyya Muslim. It's quite an interesting sect;

"The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is the leading Islamic organization to categorically reject terrorism in any form. Over a century ago, Ahmad(as) emphatically declared that an aggressive “jihad by the sword” has no place in Islam. In its place, he taught his followers to wage a bloodless, intellectual “jihad of the pen” to defend Islam. "

https://www.alislam.org/introduction/

There are 72 different sects to Islam but Ahmadiyya is probably the most advanced form of Islam in its specific declaration.

I was not aware of that. Thank you.
 


The Clamp

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Amercia Apache helicopter giving ISIS fighters save passage into Syria. America and Britain armed them so they could get rid of Asad but it backfired, instead they've raped and murdered thousands of civillans. Camereon and Obama thought they were moderate rebels :facepalm:

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America makes huge foreign policy blunder. Hardly news.
 




carlzeiss

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He was an Ahmadiyya Muslim. It's quite an interesting sect;

"The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is the leading Islamic organization to categorically reject terrorism in any form. Over a century ago, Ahmad(as) emphatically declared that an aggressive “jihad by the sword” has no place in Islam. In its place, he taught his followers to wage a bloodless, intellectual “jihad of the pen” to defend Islam. "

https://www.alislam.org/introduction/

There are 72 different sects to Islam but Ahmadiyya is probably the most advanced form of Islam in its specific declaration.

Same sect as Asad Shah the Glasgow shop owner brutally murdered earlier this year .
 




Thunder Bolt

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Amercia Apache helicopter giving ISIS fighters save passage into Syria. America and Britain armed them so they could get rid of Asad but it backfired, instead they've raped and murdered thousands of civillans. Camereon and Obama thought they were moderate rebels :facepalm:

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I can't see the video but America hasn't armed IS. They did arm the Syrian rebels which is a different group entirely.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/09/syria-us-training-moderate-rebels-terrorism
 


symyjym

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Brighton / Hove actually
Amercia Apache helicopter giving ISIS fighters save passage into Syria. America and Britain armed them so they could get rid of Asad but it backfired, instead they've raped and murdered thousands of civillans. Camereon and Obama thought they were moderate rebels :facepalm:

We certainly indirectly supplied the rebels with arms that filtered down to Daesh via Turkey and Saudi. I never trusted our governments propaganda and the way they played the Syria game. It's almost as if we promised Saudi and Turkey the Syrian land to join the two Sunni states with a Syrian Sunni state. Maybe it was a compensation package to make up to the Sunni's for what they lost in Iraq.
 








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