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vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,234
Same in Sweden.

Difficult concept to sell when there is no statistical evidence that face masks has any impact.
In the Swedish TV version of Holby City do the surgeons and doctors still bother with masks during operations and such then ?
 




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,940
Like I said, you don’t have to agree with any of it. It is a subject that came up in earlier posts. And face masks are useless, ask anyone who used them and got Covid.

well that depends on what you understand the purpose of face masks to be. the fact you bring up this tangent kinda says a lot about the position you were trying to make.
 




Swansman

Pro-peace
May 13, 2019
22,320
Sweden

Seems to be saying blah blah blah while statistics from real life says countries where less people wear masks also are countries where less people die from Covid.

People in Spain, Italy, France, Netherlands, Germany and UK were more eager to wear masks than those in Denmark, Finland, Norway and Sweden:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1114375/wearing-a-face-mask-outside-in-european-countries/

People in Spain, Italy, France, Netherlands, Germany and the UK were also more likely to die from Covid than those in Denmark, Finland, Norway and Sweden (with the only exception being Netherlands and Germany faring better than Sweden):

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1111779/coronavirus-death-rate-europe-by-country/

I'm sure you posted a nice little science report thingy there but in the real world there's nothing that indicates wearing face masks saves people.
 


Deportivo Seagull

I should coco
Jul 22, 2003
5,409
Mid Sussex
Like I said, you don’t have to agree with any of it. It is a subject that came up in earlier posts. And face masks are useless, ask anyone who used them and got Covid.

They greatly reduce the chance of passing on Covid rather than preventing you from getting it, though it does offer some protection which from memory is around 10-20%. This is why surgeons etc wear masks to stop them passing on infection to patients. The concept is well known and very simple to understand and has **** all to do with being scared.
The fact that you cluster****s are selfish ****wits, who have this warped and quiet frankly weird view that masks somehow impinge on your freedom is difficult to understand. You clearly have no consideration for your fellow man. The irony is that wearing masks to protect your fellow Americans is arguably the most patriotic thing you could do ….. but no, you listened to Trump a man who wouldn’t think twice about selling your soul for a few cents.


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Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
Like I said, you don’t have to agree with any of it. It is a subject that came up in earlier posts. And face masks are useless, ask anyone who used them and got Covid.
Yes, but how do you identify those that used a mask and didn't get the Covid they would have got without the mask ?

How do you ask these people as well ? How do they know even if you do ask them ?
 






McTavish

Well-known member
Nov 5, 2014
1,577
Seems to be saying blah blah blah while statistics from real life says countries where less people wear masks also are countries where less people die from Covid.

People in Spain, Italy, France, Netherlands, Germany and UK were more eager to wear masks than those in Denmark, Finland, Norway and Sweden:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1114375/wearing-a-face-mask-outside-in-european-countries/

People in Spain, Italy, France, Netherlands, Germany and the UK were also more likely to die from Covid than those in Denmark, Finland, Norway and Sweden (with the only exception being Netherlands and Germany faring better than Sweden):

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1111779/coronavirus-death-rate-europe-by-country/

I'm sure you posted a nice little science report thingy there but in the real world there's nothing that indicates wearing face masks saves people.
No, what it concludes is: Our review of the literature offers evidence in favor of widespread mask use as source control to reduce community transmission.

This is a review of multiple studies, many of them conducted in the "real world".

There is evidence that masks help to reduce Covid transmission. It is not a panacea and there are plenty of arguments to question wearing masks, particularly in schools, but to say there is no evidence that wearing masks has any impact is just plain wrong.
 


Swansman

Pro-peace
May 13, 2019
22,320
Sweden
No, what it concludes is: Our review of the literature offers evidence in favor of widespread mask use as source control to reduce community transmission.

This is a review of multiple studies, many of them conducted in the "real world".

There is evidence that masks help to reduce Covid transmission. It is not a panacea and there are plenty of arguments to question wearing masks, particularly in schools, but to say there is no evidence that wearing masks has any impact is just plain wrong.

Ok, fine. There is evidence. Just like there is evidence that there is a possibility in DNA changes from taking the vaccines.

https://www.mdpi.com/1467-3045/44/3/73

I'll continue not to wear a mask, you'll continue to get the vaccines. Everyone is happy.
 




W.C.

New member
Oct 31, 2011
4,927
Seems to be saying blah blah blah while statistics from real life says countries where less people wear masks also are countries where less people die from Covid.

People in Spain, Italy, France, Netherlands, Germany and UK were more eager to wear masks than those in Denmark, Finland, Norway and Sweden:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1114375/wearing-a-face-mask-outside-in-european-countries/

People in Spain, Italy, France, Netherlands, Germany and the UK were also more likely to die from Covid than those in Denmark, Finland, Norway and Sweden (with the only exception being Netherlands and Germany faring better than Sweden):

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1111779/coronavirus-death-rate-europe-by-country/

I'm sure you posted a nice little science report thingy there but in the real world there's nothing that indicates wearing face masks saves people.

Laughable. Mocks a 'nice little science report' then talks about the 'real world', which seems to stop at the borders of Europe.
 




Mental Lental

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
2,297
Shiki-shi, Saitama
Ok, fine. There is evidence. Just like there is evidence that there is a possibility in DNA changes from taking the vaccines.

https://www.mdpi.com/1467-3045/44/3/73

I'll continue not to wear a mask, you'll continue to get the vaccines. Everyone is happy.


https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/a-swedish-study-did-not-say-covid-vaccine-changes-human-dna/

https://www.lunduniversity.lu.se/article/qa-covid-19-vaccine-study-gains-attention

I'd suggest you stop getting your COVID opinions spoon fed to you via Peter McCullough Youtube videos. You may just avoid getting sick again if you do.
 
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Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
55,627
Faversham
Ok, fine. There is evidence. Just like there is evidence that there is a possibility in DNA changes from taking the vaccines.

https://www.mdpi.com/1467-3045/44/3/73

I'll continue not to wear a mask, you'll continue to get the vaccines. Everyone is happy.

One rule I have tried to follow in life is don't proffer a strong opinion on something about which I know **** all. It saves a great deal of needless unrest.
 


lasvegan

Well-known member
Jan 30, 2009
2,165
Sin City
They greatly reduce the chance of passing on Covid rather than preventing you from getting it, though it does offer some protection which from memory is around 10-20%. This is why surgeons etc wear masks to stop them passing on infection to patients. The concept is well known and very simple to understand and has **** all to do with being scared.
The fact that you cluster****s are selfish ****wits, who have this warped and quiet frankly weird view that masks somehow impinge on your freedom is difficult to understand. You clearly have no consideration for your fellow man. The irony is that wearing masks to protect your fellow Americans is arguably the most patriotic thing you could do ….. but no, you listened to Trump a man who wouldn’t think twice about selling your soul for a few cents.


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Then you clearly have no consideration for children.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...blames-significantly-reduced-development.html

And anyone who believes that being forced to wear a mask doesn’t impinge on one’s freedom is…without hurling foul insults…a bit of a numpty.
 
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lasvegan

Well-known member
Jan 30, 2009
2,165
Sin City
That's one of the stupidest things ever posted. The Trump family corruption is obvious to anyone who isn't deliberately blind to it. Ridiculous to suggest that Biden's family is a problem, but Trump's isn't. Actually, it's not ridiculous - it's just incredibly stupid.

https://youtu.be/iWcobZfiTAs

It’s a lot to comprehend, but there is loads more info like this that is publicly available to look into if you’re interested. I would say to discount it is incredibly stupid, especially when it involves the president.

While we’re on the subject…

https://nypost.com/2022/04/04/secret-service-rents-30k-malibu-pad-to-protect-hunter-biden/
 
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