Travelers back at Wild park ?

[Leas]

Why oh why cant the council stop these irritating people from just turning up and trespassing on our lovely parks ? they have been coming and going over the past 3/4 weeks now how do they legally get away with it ? , if i park on a bit of yellow paint i get fined £30 straight away .

 

[vegster]

Why oh why cant the council stop these irritating people from just turning up and trespassing on our lovely parks ? they have been coming and going over the past 3/4 weeks now how do they legally get away with it ? , if i park on a bit of yellow paint i get fined £30 straight away .

Thats because you have a registration plate and a fixed address and nowhere to hide. The problem is that they a just go where they want with impunity and just don't care. the amount of times they have got on to the fields just off the Ditchling road just south of the A27 defies belief, they either just smash off the locks on the gates or dig out the berms and drive through that way. Even putting those thick posts in the ground does not really work, its 30 seconds work with a chain saw and they are in. I think the problem is insoluble.

 

[pornomagboy]

Could always get a petrol bomb and leave it standing up against the caravan with a note saying if u come back the next on will be lit lol

 

[dejavuatbtn]

Confiscate their cars and caravans, then deport them.

 

[GreersElbow]

They're also parked out by Halfords along Lewes road, it's f***ing ridiculous. If I was to go pitch up a tent, start having bonfires and leaving rubbish everywhere. I'd be fined, and probably told not to go there again. 1 law for them, another for us.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

The answer is very simple - DVLA manage to have many roadside checks for road tax and cars being road worthy. Just send them in with the police to check all the vehicles - remove a crush those without tax or that fail a road worthiness test and impound the rest until a large fine is paid.

Unfortunately the current council don't help with their "traveller friendly" attitude.

 

[Seagull Steve]

The last time they were at Wild park, one of them asked me if I could walk my dog (on lead and muzzled) on the other side of the road as their dogs were loose. When I told them where to go, one of them got really shitty, and parked his pick up actually on the path, so there was no way for me to get around it on my mobility scooter. We had a massive slanging match, with me threatening to call the police. Only then did he move his truck.

 

[SWCspider-man]

Maybe they really enjoy cycling?

 

[ifuhatepalacestandup]

theres a farmer in shoreham who may be able to help

 

[BigGully]

Supposedly Brighton & Hove Council have a 'Travellers Liaison Officer' ... paid well.

Its a smashing invite for travellers to then come into our City and park wherever they like and trash our parks.

 

[withdeanwombat]

I think everyone's missing the romance of the raggle taggle "travellers" O.

 

[Lush]

If any political party wanted to win the next election at a stroke, all they'd need to do is to change the law . Why can't you be arrested immediately for trespassing with 'intent to dwell' on private or public land?

Let's face it, the problem is only going to get worse as more kids grow up in the travelling lifestyle.

 

[The Large One]

Unfortunately the current council don't help with their "traveller friendly" attitude.

That point might be an excellent one - if it had much validity to it.

Like with all administrations, and on all issues, they have to abide by the rule of law (even if the travellers don't bother). Contrary to what you believe, they undertake it with the same gusto as previous administrations.

The fact is, and this is the arse-end of it - to do anything about travellers, the authorities have to spend large amounts of money dealing with them. I know that the council - Green Party particularly - is sick of dealing with it, but deal with it they must. I suppose the council could try the Southwick Hill eviction model (threaten them with shotguns), but that might fracture one or two points of law.

Like it or lump it, the council (every council) is obliged to find travellers a site. There is actually a designated site for the travellers - Horsdean. Some local residents were saying that 'typcial Greens - invite the travellers in, dump on our doorstep'. But the fact is, one - it was a unanimous decision across the council to designate that site because two, it was the same one designated by Labour and the Tories in previous years.

But anyone saying the administration is 'traveller-friendly' or that the Greens actively encourage (or even fail to discourage) travellers into Brighton & Hove - that's total bollocks.

 

[BigGully]

That point might be an excellent one - if it had much validity to it.

Like with all administrations, and on all issues, they have to abide by the rule of law (even if the travellers don't bother). Contrary to what you believe, they undertake it with the same gusto as previous administrations.

The fact is, and this is the arse-end of it - to do anything about travellers, the authorities have to spend large amounts of money dealing with them. I know that the council - Green Party particularly - is sick of dealing with it, but deal with it they must. I suppose the council could try the Southwick Hill eviction model (threaten them with shotguns), but that might fracture one or two points of law.

Like it or lump it, the council (every council) is obliged to find travellers a site. There is actually a designated site for the travellers - Horsdean. Some local residents were saying that 'typcial Greens - invite the travellers in, dump on our doorstep'. But the fact is, one - it was a unanimous decision across the council to designate that site because two, it was the same one designated by Labour and the Tories in previous years.

But anyone saying the administration is 'traveller-friendly' or that the Greens actively encourage (or even fail to discourage) travellers into Brighton & Hove - that's total bollocks.

All very noble, but maybe you could confirm whether we have a 'Travellers Liaison Office' ?

If so isnt it likely that they will act on behalf of the travellers, as much as the residents which can be blighted by their presence.

Its an open invite and I think it might be something that is unique to Brighton.

If you afford them respect. irrespective of their actions then it will encourage them coming here.

 

[SWCspider-man]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ov4TlKlCog&feature=youtube_gdata_player

 

[Lush]

That point might be an excellent one - if it had much validity to it.

Like with all administrations, and on all issues, they have to abide by the rule of law (even if the travellers don't bother). Contrary to what you believe, they undertake it with the same gusto as previous administrations.

The fact is, and this is the arse-end of it - to do anything about travellers, the authorities have to spend large amounts of money dealing with them. I know that the council - Green Party particularly - is sick of dealing with it, but deal with it they must. I suppose the council could try the Southwick Hill eviction model (threaten them with shotguns), but that might fracture one or two points of law.

Like it or lump it, the council (every council) is obliged to find travellers a site. There is actually a designated site for the travellers - Horsdean. Some local residents were saying that 'typcial Greens - invite the travellers in, dump on our doorstep'. But the fact is, one - it was a unanimous decision across the council to designate that site because two, it was the same one designated by Labour and the Tories in previous years.

But anyone saying the administration is 'traveller-friendly' or that the Greens actively encourage (or even fail to discourage) travellers into Brighton & Hove - that's total bollocks.

I can see the council's problem, which is why the law needs to change at national level. Times change. Laws need to change to keep up with the times. Even travellers lifestyles have changed, no matter how much they bleat about 'preserving traditions'. It's no longer a couple of tinkers in a horse-drawn caravan. It's that woolly area of human rights that doesn't take account of the human rights of others - like kids to play football in a park on a sunny Sunday.

 

[Chinster]

fluking bunch o chunts

 

[Westdene Seagull]

That point might be an excellent one - if it had much validity to it.

Like with all administrations, and on all issues, they have to abide by the rule of law (even if the travellers don't bother). Contrary to what you believe, they undertake it with the same gusto as previous administrations.

The fact is, and this is the arse-end of it - to do anything about travellers, the authorities have to spend large amounts of money dealing with them. I know that the council - Green Party particularly - is sick of dealing with it, but deal with it they must. I suppose the council could try the Southwick Hill eviction model (threaten them with shotguns), but that might fracture one or two points of law.

Like it or lump it, the council (every council) is obliged to find travellers a site. There is actually a designated site for the travellers - Horsdean. Some local residents were saying that 'typcial Greens - invite the travellers in, dump on our doorstep'. But the fact is, one - it was a unanimous decision across the council to designate that site because two, it was the same one designated by Labour and the Tories in previous years.

But anyone saying the administration is 'traveller-friendly' or that the Greens actively encourage (or even fail to discourage) travellers into Brighton & Hove - that's total bollocks.

The moment I typed that post I gave myself a little bet that you'd step up and defend the council very quickly. On my experience, and I agree that's rather subjective, the Tory council removed travellers much quicker ( as did Labour as well ). The times I reported new encampments under these two administrations they were very quick to respond which allowed them to use a power ( and I can't remember the official name ) to remove them immediately. The two times I've reported new encampments since the Greens came to power - guess what - oh, we'll look into that but we have to be understanding of their rights. Add the encampment just off the Dyke Road roundabout that was there for months and I'd suggest the Green Party have some way to go to shake off their "traveller friendly" image.

 

[The Large One]

Supposedly Brighton & Hove Council have a 'Travellers Liaison Officer' ... paid well.

Its a smashing invite for travellers to then come into our City and park wherever they like and trash our parks.

Most councils have a Travellers Liasion Officer - in association with the Police.

Under the circumstances, it's proably a good idea.

 

[The Large One]

I can see the council's problem, which is why the law needs to change at national level. Times change. Laws need to change to keep up with the times. Even travellers lifestyles have changed, no matter how much they bleat about 'preserving traditions'. It's no longer a couple of tinkers in a horse-drawn caravan. It's that woolly area of human rights that doesn't take account of the human rights of others - like kids to play football in a park on a sunny Sunday.

Fulll agree.