[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Probably but apparently it’s not quite as safe as Fareham. We can hope!

I honestly don’t know how anyone in good conscience can vote for her or anyone else from that despicable party.

Look.

Let's not talk this great country down.

Under Corbyn we would have been . . .

Oh, hang on....

 

[TomandJerry]

Approximately 10% of Conservative MPs have announced plans to retire at the next election, sparking suggestions that they are jumping ship in the expectation of losing the next election.

Having resigned as justice secretary over bullying claims, Dominic Raab is the latest high-profile Tory politician to confirm they are serving their final term in parliament.

 

[chickens]

The Tories may be a despicable party, but Labour will still have to produce a manifesto that will entice Tory voters to switch to them. Mid term protest votes against the sitting government are just par for the course. It's no good Starmer putting out policy ideas that will appeal to Labour voters. He needs to get the hearts and minds of Tory voters.

Sorry, but if anyone (having lived through the past five years) is still standing there in the ruins of our country with arms folded saying “I remain to be convinced” then there’s nothing on earth that is going to stop them from putting a cross in the Conservative candidate’s box at the next election.

Anyone voting for this Conservative Party at the next general election is wilfully complicit in the destruction of our country.

The Conservative Party is promising more of what brought us here. Keir has given us an energy policy, Rachel Reeves has been in the US building bridges with America and discussing a cohesive industrial strategy at the Peterson Institute, as well as meeting some of Biden’s team.

Meanwhile, our alleged government have been trying to avoid speeding tickets and our cardboard cut-out Prime Minister has proven powerless to get rid of the culprit, even though this is about the fourth time she’s proven an absolute liability. This is the depth of ‘talent’ in the U.K. Conservative Party.

These days, when I imagine 10 and 11 Downing Street, I imagine the windows open and the faint sounds of the Benny Hill theme tune emanating endlessly from within.

 

[WATFORD zero]

The Tories may be a despicable party, but Labour will still have to produce a manifesto that will entice Tory voters to switch to them. Mid term protest votes against the sitting government are just par for the course. It's no good Starmer putting out policy ideas that will appeal to Labour voters. He needs to get the hearts and minds of Tory voters.

And then there's those who will never ever change the way they vote completely regardless of anything that has been said, or more importantly, done to them. Any other political party would just be wasting their time trying to appeal to their hearts, wouldn't they

 

[Machiavelli]

I want the next Labour(-led)? government to have a range of policies that really, really p!ss off some -- by no means all -- Conservative voters. Because the extent and depth of the surgery required on this country after 13 years of distraction is monumental.

 

[nicko31]

According to some of tomorrows front pages Johnson is furious he was referred to the police and is threatening to sue the lawyers that referred him

The irony is the revelations that Johnson has been referred to police over alleged lockdown parties at Chequers only came to light because Sunak government agreed to foot his legal bills for the Covid inquiry. Maybe he knew what he was doing...

 

[The Clamp]

Sorry, but if anyone (having lived through the past five years) is still standing there in the ruins of our country with arms folded saying “I remain to be convinced” then there’s nothing on earth that is going to stop them from putting a cross in the Conservative candidate’s box at the next election.

Anyone voting for this Conservative Party at the next general election is wilfully complicit in the destruction of our country.

The Conservative Party is promising more of what brought us here. Keir has given us an energy policy, Rachel Reeves has been in the US building bridges with America and discussing a cohesive industrial strategy at the Peterson Institute, as well as meeting some of Biden’s team.

Meanwhile, our alleged government have been trying to avoid speeding tickets and our cardboard cut-out Prime Minister has proven powerless to get rid of her, even though this is about the fourth time she’s proven an absolute liability. This is the depth of ‘talent’ in the U.K. Conservative Party.

These days, when I imagine 10 and 11 Downing Street, I imagine the windows open and the faint sounds of the Benny Hill theme tune emanating endlessly from within.

Yep. They cannot claim they don’t know what’s going on.

 

[nicko31]

I want the next Labour(-led)? government to have a range of policies that really, really p!ss off some -- by no means all -- Conservative voters. Because the extent and depth of the surgery required on this country after 13 years of distraction is monumental.

I'm not convinced Labour can do all the surgery required alone, they need a progressive alliance with LD's.

Gonna be very hard for the next government we looking at 5-10 years of anemic growth

 

[WATFORD zero]

I heard them all on radio 5 this morning, grizzling about the cost of living. Not a word of criticism about HMG. Not. One. Word.

f*** 'em. Sorry, but f*** 'em all. You had one vote and you pissed it up on the liberals, greens or (worse) Boris' Brexit piggies. I appreciate the alternative was Corbyn, but not one tiny word of wistful retrospectroscopy? "I just wish Starmer had been labour leader"? I did wish that. Anyway, now he is.

Oh well, never mind. f*** them then and f*** them next time. If you have been f***ed over for years, and don't even give socialism a tiny thought, then f*** you. Dream on about proportional representation and a green liberal coalition. Being f***ed over is now part of the constitution. But it's what people wanted, and voted for, so f***ing do one and stop grizzling.

(Anyone who is struggling and always votes labour, this rant is not directed at you, obviously)

Anyway, Starmer is a whiney git, all nasal, whereas Sunak has big nostrils and a pleasing voice, so, Tory it is, come the next GE. That's how it works, folks.

As a regular Radio 5 listener, I love the way they have implemented the Government's rules on 'balance'. If you have someone on who actually understands a situation and makes valid, fact based observations and statements, then the next caller must be a complete ranting moron in order to give 'balance'

 

[Nobby]

Approximately 10% of Conservative MPs have announced plans to retire at the next election, sparking suggestions that they are jumping ship in the expectation of losing the next election.

Having resigned as justice secretary over bullying claims, Dominic Raab is the latest high-profile Tory politician to confirm they are serving their final term in parliament.

Good. Let’s hope some of them can’t make a living.
And see what the rest of us have to endure.
Bstds

 

[Machiavelli]

As a regular Radio 5 listener, I love the way they have implemented the Government's rules on 'balance'. If you have someone on who actually understands a situation and makes valid, fact based observations and statements, then the next caller must be a complete ranting moron in order to give 'balance'

Exactly, I hate the notion of balance but, like the Tories, it's surprisingly popular.

 

[Machiavelli]

I'm not convinced Labour can do all the surgery required alone, they need a progressive alliance with LD's.

Gonna be very hard for the next government we looking at 5-10 years of anemic growth

There's a long, long list of major things that need doing. If the next government (whether majority Labour, Labour-minority, or Labour-led coalition) can get through half of them in the next parliament, that'd be some achievement.
In terms of future growth rates, in 'developed' economies, they are going to be low (Starmer is made himself a hostage to fortune in claiming that Labour will achieve the highest growth rates in the G7) into the future, far lower than what we've even endured thus far in 21C, let alone those of the 20C.

 

[cheshunt seagull]

When the Tories finally vacate Downing Street the new occupants will have fumigate the place to remove the fetid stench of corruption and lies.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Yes, integrity, accountability and professionalism are so important to us, blah blah blah.

 

[West Hoathly Seagull]

"Stopping the boats" has become the new slogan for this government, hasn't it? Following on from the Johnson government's "Get Brexit done". In order to achieve this, they bring in a ban on Masters students bringing dependants over, students who may go on to do a PHD, thus contributing to the economy and important research. At least some of these will now be deterred from coming here.

A majority of Masters students from abroad tend to prefer purpose-built accommodation, hence the boom in student housing in many cities, as it avoids the hassle of going through accommodation agents who may rip them off, etc. In other words the idea that they put heavy pressure on accommodation is largely spurious. However, what does this matter, so long as "Bert in the Bricklayers' Arms" thinks they're "doing something about immigration"?

 

[nicko31]

Yes, integrity, accountability and professionalism are so important to us, blah blah blah.

WEAK from Sunak, he won't face down the fash fringe...

 

[Thunder Bolt]

The irony is the revelations that Johnson has been referred to police over alleged lockdown parties at Chequers only came to light because Sunak government agreed to foot his legal bills for the Covid inquiry. Maybe he knew what he was doing...

 

[Thunder Bolt]

He pays £3.9 million cash for a new home, but gets legal aid for his defence!
If any of us wanted legal aid, we’d be turned down because it’s part of the Criminal Justice System’s cut backs.

Good question from Karl Turner (ignoring the fact he can't prounounce Ruislip))

 

[West Hoathly Seagull]

But let's ask ourselves why the anti-immigration MPs are making the noise, is it because there are no pro-immigration MPs? I doubt that. So we have to look at whether our media eco-system is allowing of people to openly broadcast their views as pro-immigration while in public office

Chris Skidmore, the Conservative MP for Kingswood, has suggested that international students should be removed from immigration figures, as they mostly go home once their degree courses have finished (and as I said in my previous post, those that stay largely make a positive contribution to the UK). I can't post the tweet, as I'm on my work computer, which isn't connected to Twitter. In other words, they are out there if journalists could be bothered to look for them.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Chris Skidmore, the Conservative MP for Kingswood, has suggested that international students should be removed from immigration figures, as they mostly go home once their degree courses have finished (and as I said in my previous post, those that stay largely make a positive contribution to the UK). I can't post the tweet, as I'm on my work computer, which isn't connected to Twitter. In other words, they are out there if the journalists could be bothered to look for them.

Hmmm. But isn't immigration the number of people who come into your country. It's not supposed to include or otherwise people who may or may not stay a long time or may or may not make the contribution you want.

They need to spend less time thinking about cooking the books and more time running the country.