[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[mikeyjh]

Under Blair and Brown, Labour made two devastating mistakes. 1. Iraqi war. 2. Not have it enough regulation the banking industry.

Cameron got in on the back of point 2. Now the Tories want to deregulate bankers again. Another financial crash will surely follow at some point.

I can't understate how much I loathe the tories and those who knowingly vote for them - 12 years of persecuting the least well off (we're all in in together) following a financial crisis caused by out of control bankers and this is their answer. Tossers. Oh, and then announce a 'new' fighter jet deal that's been worked on for 5 years!

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Under Blair and Brown, Labour made two devastating mistakes. 1. Iraqi war. 2. Not have it enough regulation the banking industry.

Cameron got in on the back of point 2. Now the Tories want to deregulate bankers again. Another financial crash will surely follow at some point.

Gordon Brown was awarded for his solutions to the banking crisis, and many countries followed his example. There again, he is an economist.
Unfortunately, in 2010, the press did a number on him, and the coalition got in.

 

[chickens]

Apparently, Matt Hancock wants to pursue a television career.

To be fair, I’d watch a pay-per-view bout between him and Tyson Fury, if he was propped up at one end of the ring and the ref went outside for an extended fag break.

 

[rippleman]

So now The Hunt wants to deregulate the banks again. How long before we need to bail them out again? 2008 showed that we cannot trust bankers to act honestly and with propriety without strict rules in place (a bit like a three year old). Remove the regulations so they can exploit the system and we have seen that they will take every advantage.

Still. The Hunt needs to make sure he keeps the bankers happy so he gets his non-exec directorships and "consultancies" when he does a runner or the electorate kicks him out.

No good will come of this.

(Next item on the news? Santander being fined over a hundred million quid (Is that all? Ed.) for giving the finger to the anti money laundering regulations.)

 

[Hotchilidog]

Under Blair and Brown, Labour made two devastating mistakes. 1. Iraqi war. 2. Not have it enough regulation the banking industry.

Cameron got in on the back of point 2. Now the Tories want to deregulate bankers again. Another financial crash will surely follow at some point.

They also introduced PFI to the NHS, for noble reasons but it has allowed the Tories to practically wreck the service on the back of it. The 97 Labour government was too timid and failed to make the most of its huge majority. I really hope Keir does not repeat those mistakes and actually tries to achieve real change when he comes to power.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Tory MP declared bankrupt owing HMRC £1 million and £700,000 to Barclays bank. I believe a bankrupt cannot be an MP, so there may be another by election.

 

[The Clamp]

Tory MP declared bankrupt owing HMRC £1 million and £700,000 to Barclays bank. I believe a bankrupt cannot be an MP, so there may be another by election.

Except that in true Tory tradition.. he’s refusing to go.

Adam Afriyie says he will not quit as Conservative MP after bankruptcy order

Windsor MP will stand down at next election but not quit and trigger byelection

www.theguardian.com

 

[nicko31]

Except that in true Tory tradition.. he’s refusing to go.

Adam Afriyie says he will not quit as Conservative MP after bankruptcy order

Windsor MP will stand down at next election but not quit and trigger byelection

www.theguardian.com

Used to work for Jeffery Archer, anti-gay marriage, Brexit head banger, covid recovery group...ticks a lot of boxes.

A true Tory

 

[Peteinblack]

Tory MP declared bankrupt owing HMRC £1 million and £700,000 to Barclays bank. I believe a bankrupt cannot be an MP, so there may be another by election.

So much for Tories being 'economically competent' - I bet he blames this on Labour and Gordon Brown too!

 

[Springal]

Why the UK must embrace the ‘crypto revolution’

by Adam Afriyie MP The left would have us believe that opportunism is a dirty word. Yet, opportunism underpins innovation. It generates jobs and prosperity,

cryptonews.watch

This aged well

 

[A1X]

Partygate: ministers accused of writing ‘blank cheque’ for Boris Johnson legal bills

Exclusive: Cabinet Office to extend contract with law firm to defend claims ex-PM misled parliament, sources say

www.theguardian.com

 

[maltaseagull]

I can't understate how much I loathe the tories and those who knowingly vote for them - 12 years of persecuting the least well off (we're all in in together) following a financial crisis caused by out of control bankers and this is their answer. Tossers. Oh, and then announce a 'new' fighter jet deal that's been worked on for 5 years!

I am glad I cannot vote here or in the UK. Choices are which is the worst?
Here it's corrupt cronyism versus bitter infighting with no constructive ideas. There it seems corrupt cronyism versus no clear solutions.
If I am wrong please tell me what the Labour party's plans are to resolve all these crises.

Ps If I could vote , it would not be for either of the main parties in either country.

 

[rogersix]

I am glad I cannot vote here or in the UK. Choices are which is the worst?
Here it's corrupt cronyism versus bitter infighting with no constructive ideas. There it seems corrupt cronyism versus no clear solutions.
If I am wrong please tell me what the Labour party's plans are to resolve all these crises.

Ps If I could vote , it would not be for either of the main parties in either country.

the labour party can't know which specific crises they will be faced with.

the tories have to realize that their incompetence and greed is the main issue facing britain today, and pick a date. unfortunately, they are not the sharpest spoon in the drawer

 

[maltaseagull]

the labour party can't know which specific crises they will be faced with.

the tories have to realize that their incompetence and greed is the main issue facing britain today, and pick a date. unfortunately, they are not the sharpest spoon in the drawer

Sorry but forget party loyalty.
The Tories have made horrendous mistakes. But the current crisis is mostly due to the cost of the pandemic and the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
What is Lanours solution to this?

 

[The Clamp]

Sorry but forget party loyalty.
The Tories have made horrendous mistakes. But the current crisis is mostly due to the cost of the pandemic and the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
What is Lanours solution to this?

Nothing to do with 12 years of Tory incompetence rendering the U.K. incapable of dealing with crisis?

Nothing to do with 12 years of Tory corruption designed to transfer money from the public purse into the accounts of cabinet members and their cohorts?

Nothing to do with 12 years of running public services into the ground and keeping wages so low that even ambulance crew are refusing to work?

Nothing to do with 12 years of relentlessly untrustworthy leadership that for the best part of the last two years, instead of dealing with mounting crisis, have been at each other’s throats almost constantly?

Nothing to do with pursuing the most ludicrous of Brexits, whatever the cost, whatever the glaringly obvious damage it’s doing to our economy?

No, I’m sure all that has put is in great stead to deal with any crisis we face.

 

[jcdenton08]

Nothing to do with 12 years of Tory incompetence rendering the U.K. incapable of dealing with crisis?

Nothing to do with 12 years of Tory corruption designed to transfer money from the public purse into the accounts of cabinet members and their cohorts?

Nothing to do with 12 years of running public services into the ground and keeping wages so low that even ambulance crew are refusing to work?

Nothing to do with 12 years of relentlessly untrustworthy leadership that for the best part of the last two years, instead of dealing with mounting crisis, have been at each other’s throats almost constantly?

Nothing to do with pursuing the most ludicrous of Brexits, whatever the cost, whatever the glaringly obvious damage it’s doing to our economy?

No, I’m sure all that has put is in great stead to deal with any crisis we face.

Labour in the 70’s weren’t great. They hugely f***ed up the economy. Every political party fucks up the economy sometimes.

You need to get this out of your head that Labour will come in and fix/change everything. They won’t and can’t.

Party politics is cyclical. Soon it’ll be Labour’s turn again. There’s a reason they aren’t in government right now - they lost an election because they became desperately unpopular.

Right now the Tories are even more unpopular and will lose heavily, and then after Labour’s cycle, they will be unpopular and a new Tory government will come in and…

Party politics. It’s just party politics.

 

[clapham_gull]

Under Blair and Brown, Labour made two devastating mistakes. 1. Iraqi war. 2. Not have it enough regulation the banking industry.

Cameron got in on the back of point 2. Now the Tories want to deregulate bankers again. Another financial crash will surely follow at some point.

There was also the public private partnership of the London underground which collapsed.

It was such a c#####f### that no one really knows how much money it wasted but it ran into billions. There is pouring billions "down the tube", but also not being aware of how many billions were lost.

Attention (obviously) was distracted by the Iraq war by the time of the collapse but it was a massive failure of the Government.

It's often cited as one of the worst mistakes of modern Government, up there with the poll tax, costing more money but often forgotten.

 

[rogersix]

Sorry but forget party loyalty.
The Tories have made horrendous mistakes. But the current crisis is mostly due to the cost of the pandemic and the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
What is Lanours solution to this?

er, you can only control the controlables, what have the tories done in 12 years except brexit? in all seriousness, who could be worse than this rabble?

 

[rogersix]

Labour in the 70’s weren’t great. They hugely f***ed up the economy. Every political party fucks up the economy sometimes.

You need to get this out of your head that Labour will come in and fix/change everything. They won’t and can’t.

Party politics is cyclical. Soon it’ll be Labour’s turn again. There’s a reason they aren’t in government right now - they lost an election because they became desperately unpopular.

Right now the Tories are even more unpopular and will lose heavily, and then after Labour’s cycle, they will be unpopular and a new Tory government will come in and…

Party politics. It’s just party politics.

what type of nation would you like to live in?

 

[The Clamp]

Labour in the 70’s weren’t great. They hugely f***ed up the economy. Every political party fucks up the economy sometimes.

You need to get this out of your head that Labour will come in and fix/change everything. They won’t and can’t.

Party politics is cyclical. Soon it’ll be Labour’s turn again. There’s a reason they aren’t in government right now - they lost an election because they became desperately unpopular.

Right now the Tories are even more unpopular and will lose heavily, and then after Labour’s cycle, they will be unpopular and a new Tory government will come in and…

Party politics. It’s just party politics.

When have I ever expressed the opinion labour will fix everything?
While I do not trust Starmer or particularly like him, right now we need a government that, while they may not fix everything might at least stop making it worse.