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Pevenseagull

Anti-greed coalition
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Jul 20, 2003
18,866
"In the spring the OBR said he could spend an extra £6.5bn and still have debt falling as a proportion of gross domestic product in five years’ time. The Resolution Foundation thinktank has predicted that could now be £13bn, although reports suggest it could be even higher."

So, instead of spending that £13bn on local services, reducing poverty, NHS, measures to benefit everyone, etc, etc - his first thought is.....

Reports going around that he's going to save money elsewhere by not increasing benefits for disabled people in line with September's higher inflation rate.
 

TomandJerry

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Oct 1, 2013
10,505
Robert Jenrick, the immigration minister, is pushing for emergency legislation to disapply the Human Rights Act and direct courts to ignore the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) in asylum cases.


However, cabinet ministers including James Cleverly, the home secretary, Victoria Prentis, the attorney general, and Alex Chalk, the justice secretary, are said to have reservations about a hardline approach. One senior government source described the strategy as “mad”, saying the courts would go “ballistic” and questioning whether Sunak would be willing to endorse it.
 

Thunder Bolt

Ordinary Supporter
Robert Jenrick, the immigration minister, is pushing for emergency legislation to disapply the Human Rights Act and direct courts to ignore the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) in asylum cases.


However, cabinet ministers including James Cleverly, the home secretary, Victoria Prentis, the attorney general, and Alex Chalk, the justice secretary, are said to have reservations about a hardline approach. One senior government source described the strategy as “mad”, saying the courts would go “ballistic” and questioning whether Sunak would be willing to endorse it.
Jenrick is still trying to blame the ECHR, when the Supreme Court was at pains to point out, the scheme also broke three different British laws.
Every criminal could then cite the government deliberately breaking laws they don’t like, so why should anyone obey laws.
 

The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
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West is BEST
Screwing us all..

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kevo

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Mar 8, 2008
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Just finished watching the excellent Channel 4 docu-drama #Partygate.

If you missed it, watch it on catch up, it will became a defining television programme.

How am I meant to get to sleep now, being this angry.
Only just caught up with this. Absolutely sickening - and they didn't even include the 'Abba party' (which was mysteriously left out of the Sue Gray report and which the Met still hasn't investigated).

How can anyone possibly vote for the Tories after watching this programme?

I really hope Channel 4 broadcasts it again just before the next election.

(although of course we should have already had an election - in any other era, partygate would have brought down the government).
 
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JBizzle

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Apr 18, 2010
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Seaford
Only just caught up with this. Absolutely sickening - and they didn't even include the 'Abba party' (which was mysteriously left out of the Sue Gray report and which the Met still hasn't investigated).

How can anyone possibly vote for the Tories after watching this programme?

I really hope Channel 4 broadcasts it again just before the next election.

(although of course we should have already had an election - in any other era, partygate would have brought down the government).
Yeah, but that's what they want you to think. It's all lefty, wokerati propaganda pushing an anti-British agenda, innit.
 

Thunder Bolt

Ordinary Supporter
Reports going around that he's going to save money elsewhere by not increasing benefits for disabled people in line with September's higher inflation rate.
Benefits for disabled people? Not a bit of it. Mark my words, it will be workhouses next.
If you're sick, disabled or mentally ill, you have a duty to work at home. No doubt, on minimum wages!

The policy will be set out on Wednesday as part of the autumn statement amid a drive by Rishi Sunak to make changes to the welfare system, which he described on Monday as “unsustainable”

 

Pevenseagull

Anti-greed coalition
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Jul 20, 2003
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lawros left foot

Glory hunting since 1969
Jun 11, 2011
13,510
Worthing
Kinnocks speech 1983
Still quite relevant today.

June 1983 , Glamorgan, Wales

If Margaret Thatcher is re-elected as prime minister on Thursday, I warn you.

I warn you that you will have pain–when healing and relief depend upon payment.

I warn you that you will have ignorance–when talents are untended and wits are wasted, when learning is a privilege and not a right.

I warn you that you will have poverty–when pensions slip and benefits are whittled away by a government that won’t pay in an economy that can’t pay.

I warn you that you will be cold–when fuel charges are used as a tax system that the rich don’t notice and the poor can’t afford.

I warn you that you must not expect work–when many cannot spend, more will not be able to earn. When they don’t earn, they don’t spend. When they don’t spend, work dies.

I warn you not to go into the streets alone after dark or into the streets in large crowds of protest in the light.

I warn you that you will be quiet–when the curfew of fear and the gibbet of unemployment make you obedient.

I warn you that you will have defence of a sort–with a risk and at a price that passes all understanding.

I warn you that you will be home-bound–when fares and transport bills kill leisure and lock you up.

I warn you that you will borrow less–when credit, loans, mortgages and easy payments are refused to people on your melting income.

If Margaret Thatcher wins on Thursday–

– I warn you not to be ordinary

– I warn you not to be young

– I warn you not to fall ill

– I warn you not to get old.
 

BLOCK F

Well-known member
Feb 26, 2009
6,159
Kinnocks speech 1983
Still quite relevant today.

June 1983 , Glamorgan, Wales

If Margaret Thatcher is re-elected as prime minister on Thursday, I warn you.

I warn you that you will have pain–when healing and relief depend upon payment.

I warn you that you will have ignorance–when talents are untended and wits are wasted, when learning is a privilege and not a right.

I warn you that you will have poverty–when pensions slip and benefits are whittled away by a government that won’t pay in an economy that can’t pay.

I warn you that you will be cold–when fuel charges are used as a tax system that the rich don’t notice and the poor can’t afford.

I warn you that you must not expect work–when many cannot spend, more will not be able to earn. When they don’t earn, they don’t spend. When they don’t spend, work dies.

I warn you not to go into the streets alone after dark or into the streets in large crowds of protest in the light.

I warn you that you will be quiet–when the curfew of fear and the gibbet of unemployment make you obedient.

I warn you that you will have defence of a sort–with a risk and at a price that passes all understanding.

I warn you that you will be home-bound–when fares and transport bills kill leisure and lock you up.

I warn you that you will borrow less–when credit, loans, mortgages and easy payments are refused to people on your melting income.

If Margaret Thatcher wins on Thursday–

– I warn you not to be ordinary

– I warn you not to be young

– I warn you not to fall ill

– I warn you not to get old.
I have a soft spot for old man Kinnock, but that is typical of the Welsh Windbag.
Had a good chat and a few beers with Kinnock Junior many years in a West End pub. Happy days and no nastiness, just a good time.
 

Cheshire Cat

The most curious thing..
"ultimately there is a duty on citizens if they are able to go out to work they should. Those who can work and contribute should contribute.”

Sounds like the promise I made when a cub scout.

What "duty". Contribute to what?

Where is the nearest chain gang?
 

Pevenseagull

Anti-greed coalition
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Jul 20, 2003
18,866
According to the lefty courts


You allowed to call one of them 'scum '


As long as its Iain Duncan Smith

In certain circumstances

Evidently


I would never do that.

Just reporting legal proceedings.

I'd never use 'scum' as a 4 letter word to describe him when other words are available.

Tory is enough.
 

Randy McNob

Now go home and get your f#cking Shinebox
Jun 13, 2020
4,314
"ultimately there is a duty on citizens if they are able to go out to work they should. Those who can work and contribute should contribute.”

Sounds like the promise I made when a cub scout.

What "duty". Contribute to what?

Where is the nearest chain gang?
alternatively marry a Billionaire
 

hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
Helpful Moderator
Mar 16, 2005
59,961
Chandlers Ford
Only just caught up with this. Absolutely sickening - and they didn't even include the 'Abba party' (which was mysteriously left out of the Sue Gray report and which the Met still hasn't investigated).

How can anyone possibly vote for the Tories after watching this programme?

I really hope Channel 4 broadcasts it again just before the next election.

(although of course we should have already had an election - in any other era, partygate would have brought down the government).
I'm fairly sure that the election rules would preclude screening that 'just before' an election, sadly.

And besides, surely no Tory voters watch Channel 4, anyway.
 

Thunder Bolt

Ordinary Supporter
PV wrote down what he heard from DC about something that he was not in the room for

The whole thing is school yard name calling, summed up by this third hard story.

Do we not waste enough money in this country?
What do you consider to be a waste of money?
 

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