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Mr Banana

Tedious chump
Aug 8, 2005
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It doesn't mean that Wendy is our saviour, nor that McGhee was a bad manager. It just puts beyond doubt - gimps who are so obsessed with him that they still have his rhetoric spin in their signatures excepted - that it was the right time to make a change :)
 
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D

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I think this thread is really just aimed at the Pro McGhee brigade that just wouldn't accept that he was a stubborn aggressive, bully of a manager with the negative attitude of a lemmin!!


Thank god Dick Knight eventually saw what 90% of the fans could see.

Where would Jake be now under McGhee?
 
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Early Doors

Coach
Sep 15, 2003
817
Horsham
Jim D said:
Great - so we'll get one of these every time we win and a 'Wilkins Out' thread every time we lose?

Talk about blowing hot and cold.

In my opinion (and I was a 'McGhee inner') we are doing things that we never did under him. We seem to have a cohesion and team spirit that was lacking previously. I would now accept that it probably was the right time to change managers as I think that the previous 2 seasons of trying to keep us in the Championship on a 'next to nothing' budget had got to Mcghee.

My thoughts exactly. Saves me having to type it too :thumbsup:
 


D

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Mr Banana said:
- that it was the right time to make a change :)

How can you say it was the right time?

I would have said the right time was about 6 months prior to his dismissal.

Although that is the past and thank god DK did the right thing in the end.

???
 






London Irish said:
Like Lynch at right-back? Like Fraser at right-wing? Like El Abd in centre midfield? Willkins has also played OGH at right-back.

I wouldn't mind these criticisms if they had a shred of consistency but it is all total double standards.

No, there is a difference from "finding positions that plays CAN fit into when required, perhaps even where they are actually an asset to the side", and "plonking desired big targetman on the bench and getting nowhere week after week".

Yes, MM did find a couple of changes that worked, but for relentlessly sticking with ones that were sore thumbs, he was an absolute dunce.
If DW does that sort of thick pig-headedness I'm sure I'd feel the same way, but right now that situation is chalk v cheese, looks unlikely.
 


Mouldy Boots said:
IWhere would Jake be now under McGhee?
Another fantastic piece of rewriting of history :dunce:

It is a FACT that even though we are now into November, Jake Robinson has started more league games under McGhee this season at Withdean than he has under Dean Wilkins.

And Robinson probably wouldn't have even started his one so far under Wilkins if Sam Williams hadn't proved so mediocre and Harty hadn't got injured.
 
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NMH said:
No, there is a difference from "finding positions that plays CAN fit into when required, perhaps even where they are actually an asset to the side", and "plonking desired big targetman on the bench and getting nowhere week after week".

Yes, MM did find a couple of changes that worked, but for relentlessly sticking with ones that were sore thumbs, he was an absolute dunce.
If DW does that sort of thick pig-headedness I'm sure I'd feel the same way, but right now that situation is chalk v cheese, looks unlikely.

Actually, most of Wilkins out-of-position picks are short-termist fill-ins. The only one that looks a long-term tactical gambit is El Abd, and bravo to Wilkins for not listening to the dull "never play anyone out of position" brigade who whinged so incessantly under McGhee.
 
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Mr Banana said:
Good old Banana, can always be relied on for the ad hominem insult rather than actually dirtying himself to talk about football.
 


Gritt23

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Jul 7, 2003
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The difference for me is the whole atmosphere within the club.

McGhee's man management had let to a very down and divided dressing room - I think that's unarguable.

Wilkins comes in and everyone looks far more motivated, and a team ethic has returned. I don't think that is disputable.
 


n1 gull

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Jul 25, 2003
4,750
Hurstpierpoint
London Irish said:
Another fantastic piece of rewriting of history :dunce:

It is a FACT that even though we are now into November, Jake Robinson has started more league games under McGhee this season at Withdean than he has under Dean Wilkins.

And Robinson probably wouldn't have even started his one so far under Wilkins if Sam Williams hadn't proved so mediocre and Harty hadn't got injured.

But how many times were are strikers played, then dropped, or subbed or partnered new forwards. McGhee never seemed to give them a decent run in the team.

He also went on so much about not having decent forwards (or target men) that it must be very draining on the squad. I thought Jake was rubbish to be honest, but I now think that was because McGhee was saying that - if that makes sense?
 
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British Bulldog

The great escape
Feb 6, 2006
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n1 gull said:
But how many times were are strikers played, then dropped, or subbed or partnered new forwards. McGhee never seemed to give them a decent run in the team.

He also went on so much about not having decent forwards (or target men) that it must be very draining on the squad. I thought Jake was rubbish to be honest, but I now think that was because McGhee was saying that - if that makes sense?

Makes a lot of sense! I just don't think McGhee knew how to get the best out of his strikers.
 


Mr Banana

Tedious chump
Aug 8, 2005
5,513
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London Irish said:
Good old Banana, can always be relied on for the ad hominem insult rather than actually dirtying himself to talk about football.

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Ner ner na ner ner! He's gone, the team's playing brilliantly and you're not even gonna get another team to support cos no-one wants him as manager!

PS I did dirty myself to talk about football yesterday as I spontaneously shat myself while recounting the last three goals on the bus home :)
 


Silent Bob

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Dec 6, 2004
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Cocksucker Blue said:
who thought he was doing a good job in difficult circumstances.....bet you feel really silly tonight.
WHO??
 




Turkey

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Jul 4, 2003
15,587
NMH said:
But for the time being, it's good to rub it in that you who thought magoo was doing an excellent job (while running our club down the league, hamstringing the players by playing them out of position, alienating the talents by benching them) are seeing what a decent tryer, an UNseasoned manager can do with a little.

Waaaaaaaaaaaankerrrrrsss ! :tosser: :tosser: :tosser: :tosser:

f*** off, prick. Thinking McGhee was a good manager has nothing to do with their opinion on Wilkins. And to say the football (this season) was crap under McGhee is bollocks because we played very very well in the first few games. He then had a blip, but Wilkins had a bad run too. I'll end how I started. f*** off, prick.
 


withdeanwombat

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Feb 17, 2005
8,791
Somersetshire
We'd have scored 10 with Mr McGhee,and had readings from his book for half time entertainment.

Up the Albion!

Oh,btw,my fifteen love score prediction was almost on the button.
 


D

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London Irish said:
Another fantastic piece of rewriting of history :dunce:

It is a FACT that even though we are now into November, Jake Robinson has started more league games under McGhee this season at Withdean than he has under Dean Wilkins.

And Robinson probably wouldn't have even started his one so far under Wilkins if Sam Williams hadn't proved so mediocre and Harty hadn't got injured.

Actually it is FACT that Jake is a far better player under Deano and Fact that most of the team are playing individually better than they were under MM.

I wonder why that is?

Come on LI time to admit MM was a nasty negative manager who just lost the plot.
 


British Bulldog

The great escape
Feb 6, 2006
10,994
Mouldy Boots said:
Come on LI time to admit MM was a nasty negative manager who just lost the plot.

You've got no chance of that happening. :lolol:
 




Turkey said:
f*** off, prick. Thinking McGhee was a good manager has nothing to do with their opinion on Wilkins. And to say the football (this season) was crap under McGhee is bollocks because we played very very well in the first few games. He then had a blip, but Wilkins had a bad run too. I'll end how I started. f*** off, prick.

Suck mine and see, faggot. I didn't say other people's opinion on MM has anything to do with DW, or their opinions on him. What is fact is that people held opinion on MM, and they hold an opinion for DW.
If you weren't such a thick pratt you'd have understood.
Get sucking.
 


Turkey

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Jul 4, 2003
15,587
NMH said:
Suck mine and see, faggot. I didn't say other people's opinion on MM has anything to do with DW, or their opinions on him. What is fact is that people held opinion on MM, and they hold an opinion for DW.
If you weren't such a thick pratt you'd have understood.
Get sucking.

No you were calling those who thought McGhee was doing a good job wankers. I'm sorry but you can think both managers did/are doing good jobs. As for being thick, I won a bottle of wine in the pub quiz tuesday, so thats imposible. :lolol: :salute:
 


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