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Three must go, not just Hyypia. Burke out, Barber out









drew

Drew
Oct 3, 2006
23,071
Burgess Hill
Who would I replace him with? Someone like our former CEO Martin Perry - who understands the importance of fans rather than customers and passion rather than marketing.

Helping to reduce your ticket cost? Well we have amongst the most expensive tickets in the league and 10,000 empty seats - something tells me his strategy isn't working too well - although to be fair relegation SHOULD see our ticket prices come down.

Brighton and Hove Albion is MORE than just a business - Paul Barber just does not seem to understand that - and for that reason, he's got to go.

Firstly, MP has done an exceptional job effectively project managing the planning and construction of the Amex and the training ground. However, when he was CEO, we were playing at an athletics track with about 6000 regular supporters. He also chose to resign so what makes you think he will want to come back, especially as he seems to want to go into politics.

I would also suggest that DK was far more of a hands on chairman than TB is.

Finally, you can bleat on about BHA being more than a business as much as you like but without the business element we wouldn't exist other than a club playing park football. The fans through ticket sales and merchandise cannot fund the running of the club. Like it or not, we, like every club in the league, need corporate money.

Change the manager, possibly the coach as well, get the team winning and things will seem so much better. There may well be changes behind the scenes but what we need is a manager that can get the players motivated and organised. Alas, that seems well beyond SH's capabilities.
 




nwgull

Well-known member
Jul 25, 2003
13,824
Manchester
So in your opinion, we should just accept the things happening at the club and not question anything then.
Is that what Harty and Samarah should have done a few years back then in your opinion?
Has TB or PB secretly sold the Amex to developers leaving us with no ground to play at? No.

We're shit on the pitch due to a manager who is out of his depth and poor recruitment (over a couple of seasons). PB doesn't pick the team, neither does he manage recruitment.

If TB were to sack PB what difference would that make to the team and recruitment?
 




Bold Seagull

strong and stable with me, or...
Mar 18, 2010
29,829
Hove
TB might concede he got the Hyppia appointment wrong and sack him, hopefully this weekend.

No way is he going to concede he got the club structure and all his other key appointments wrong as well. We've had 3 successful seasons in the Championships until this season. He's not going to take that as a failure of what he's set up.
 


nwgull

Well-known member
Jul 25, 2003
13,824
Manchester
That happened despite Paul Barber, not because of him. Two fantastic managers overachieving with a mid-table budget, like you say.

Could we have kept those fantastic managers if Paul Barber wasn't running the show? We can only speculate.

I think that we could've kept those fantastic managers if we'd given them an open cheque book. This is TB's decision to make, and, whether or not you think he should've gambled on last season, you've got to respect the decision of a man that sees £10m of his personal wealth disappear into the club each year.
 


Larry

Member
Feb 11, 2011
140
Get BARBER out of our club he is the one to blame.He got GUS the sack,Oscar left because of HIM.He got rid of GULLYS GIRLS also the SWEET SHOP in the family stand.The FFP that he keeps harping on about is a load of BULL.He has done the same every club and at the FA.Get this B===TED out before itis to LATE.
 




spanish flair

Well-known member
Jan 30, 2014
2,349
Brighton
Has TB or PB secretly sold the Amex to developers leaving us with no ground to play at? No.

We're shit on the pitch due to a manager who is out of his depth and poor recruitment (over a couple of seasons). PB doesn't pick the team, neither does he manage recruitment.

If TB were to sack PB what difference would that make to the team and recruitment?

Your point was that if things go wrong we have to blame someone (as if this was wrong) and this is the point I picked you up on. Now congratulations you have joined in and blamed the manager. So you needed someone to blame as well.
 


nwgull

Well-known member
Jul 25, 2003
13,824
Manchester
Your point was that if things go wrong we have to blame someone (as if this was wrong) and this is the point I picked you up on. Now congratulations you have joined in and blamed the manager. So you needed someone to blame as well.

At least I'm blaming the relevent people and giving reasons. The sheep just blame PB without coming up with any sensible reason as to how he affects the playing side.
 


drew

Drew
Oct 3, 2006
23,071
Burgess Hill
That happened despite Paul Barber, not because of him. Two fantastic managers overachieving with a mid-table budget, like you say.

Could we have kept those fantastic managers if Paul Barber wasn't running the show? We can only speculate.

In the main, you do spout utter crap whether it be about the devil incarnate that is the USA or the devil incarnate which is Paul Barber.
 




drew

Drew
Oct 3, 2006
23,071
Burgess Hill
Get BARBER out of our club he is the one to blame.He got GUS the sack,Oscar left because of HIM.He got rid of GULLYS GIRLS also the SWEET SHOP in the family stand.The FFP that he keeps harping on about is a load of BULL.He has done the same every club and at the FA.Get this B===TED out before itis to LATE.

:facepalm:

ps. Move to WSU as we have a sweet trolley every game!
 




Crispy Ambulance

Well-known member
May 27, 2010
2,427
Burgess Hill
All 3.

On the pitch - Sami, tactically inept. Not been helped by crap recruitment but the constant selection of the Siamese Twins in midfield (for starters) shows he hasn't got what it takes to move our club forwards in the right direction.

Recruitment - Burke, shocking! Even the Moose on talk sport was taking the piss out of the O'Grady signing.

Off the pitch/finance - Barber. Bean counter, not a football man (unlike Perry, who stood on the terraces, or Gordon Smith, who played the game and understood it from a fan's perspective). Upwards of 8k people, who had 'bought' tickets for last night, did not attend. Why? Because Barber saw the £80k from Sky, knew that the date change would mean that a number of sth's would not be able to make it (office parties, concerts/other activities already booked, working, etc) and knew that the money from those not attending was already banked. Short term = £80k - long term = pissed off sth's being taken for granted with another reason not to renew (not to mention lost revenue on the night, fewer programmes, pies, pints, etc sold).
 




KZNSeagull

Well-known member
Nov 26, 2007
19,845
Wolsingham, County Durham
That happened despite Paul Barber, not because of him. Two fantastic managers overachieving with a mid-table budget, like you say.

Could we have kept those fantastic managers if Paul Barber wasn't running the show? We can only speculate.

Would we have had a mid-table budget without Paul Barber running the show?
 


spanish flair

Well-known member
Jan 30, 2014
2,349
Brighton
At least I'm blaming the relevent people and giving reasons. The sheep just blame PB without coming up with any sensible reason as to how he affects the playing side.

In your opinion you are blaming the relevant people, are other people not allowed an opinion then? And anyone who agrees with you are not sheep then, is that correct?
 




nwgull

Well-known member
Jul 25, 2003
13,824
Manchester
I'm
All 3.

On the pitch - Sami, tactically inept. Not been helped by crap recruitment but the constant selection of the Siamese Twins in midfield (for starters) shows he hasn't got what it takes to move our club forwards in the right direction.

Recruitment - Burke, shocking! Even the Moose on talk sport was taking the piss out of the O'Grady signing.

Off the pitch/finance - Barber. Bean counter, not a football man (unlike Perry, who stood on the terraces, or Gordon Smith, who played the game and understood it from a fan's perspective). Upwards of 8k people, who had 'bought' tickets for last night, did not attend. Why? Because Barber saw the £80k from Sky, knew that the date change would mean that a number of sth's would not be able to make it (office parties, concerts/other activities already booked, working, etc) and knew that the money from those not attending was already banked. Short term = £80k - long term = pissed off sth's being taken for granted with another reason not to renew (not to mention lost revenue on the night, fewer programmes, pies, pints, etc sold).

Do we have an option when it comes to Sky games? Serious question.
 




nwgull

Well-known member
Jul 25, 2003
13,824
Manchester
Who knows but the chairman has said it is the highest paid squad in the clubs history, has the money been spent wisely?

Hence PB has done his bit in providing the budget. He doesn't have any say in how it is then spent, or squandered, as has been the case with some of our signings over the past 18 months.
 




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