This Club Is On Its Arse

[cjd]

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There's already a roof on one side of the ground, so there surely can't be a separate bit of planning bollocks that prevents the other side of the ground having a roof. When was a planning application last attempted to put a roof over the South Stand? The club must surely realise that a fair percentage of the crowd, maybe even some - gasp! - STH are elderly and they could easily catch pneumonia in these conditions. Or stop coming.

I was a young man when i first went to Withdean....now I,m a withered old pensioner......look around you next time.....we,ve all aged !!

 

[East Staffs Gull]

As someone who didn't get a West Ham ticket, I've no gripe with the 50/50 policy. In fact, I support it. The policy refers to rewarding STHs and regular away fans. My gripe is with the way in which the club has implemented the policy, i.e. by treating all AMS members as "regular" away fans. As a result, someone who is both a STH and a regular away fan (including Oldham and Port Vale) has not got a ticket. Further, the club had the opportunity of obtaining more tickets and even had my money in order to be able to do so.

This is not the time for the club to be treating fans in this way.

 

[cjd]

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Sorry, I had to give up reading this because of your use of commas as apostrophes.

I do apologise....you are quite correct. My education was indeed somewhat limited, and my command of the English language is less than I would like. However, I do hope you take the time to read my post. I do not expect people to agree with it, but to have an awareness of how people feel in any debate/discussion or argument is always useful. It is something I have endeavoured to do most of my life.
Many thanks for at least bothering to make a comment.

 

[Juan Albion]

Very Funny. You write a post worth reading and you get replys like Juan Albions.Your clearly one of those people who won't stop going on about the pointless Wesy Ham game.....

My point was that I find the fickleness of some of our fans to be quite astonishing. We have a team full of youngsters who have come on leaps and bounds but they are bound to have good spells and bad spells, given their lack of experience. We also have a rookie manager who is still learning the ropes. But on here, the fans just don't seem to get that. We win some games, people talk of automatic promotion, we lose some, people talk of the conference. And as far as the Falmer thing goes, I don't think much has changed recently.

But if you want to continue being a miserablist, be my guest.

 

[Happy Seagull]

Further, the club had the opportunity of obtaining more tickets and even had my money in order to be able to do so.

No the club did not.

 

[Beach Hut]

No the club did not.

True statement

 

[timbha]

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Foresight?

I hate to point out the blindingly obvious, but I think it's more commonly referred to as MONEY!

didn't get as far as money, was planning permission (or lack of it)

 

[NMH]

Dick and Martin Perry have gone all quiet haven't they?Dean Wilkins is working with a youth team and the older pros have had it.No foresight to get some roofs over the poorly planned Withdean stadium. I couldn't get a season ticket this year cos of my job but I have been one for ten years before hand but for the quality on the pitch and the entertainment...well £24.50 is not value for money now is it?Martin Perry's so called expertease now sound like expert bullshit and Dick Knight's marketing ideas haven't hit the ground running have they?All this plus the added bonus of the chaps putting all their eggs in one basket for Falmer and no plan B are becoming very transparent.They are not providing the supporters with value for money hense the crowds dwindling dramatically. We should be selling this ground out!Plus the fact that all the blocks have got mixed supporters all over the shop.Behind the goal should be singing all around to create a small amount of collective atmosphere x

Twas brillig, and the slithy toves did gyre and gimble in the wabe.
All mimsy were the borogoves,
and the mome-raths outgrabe.

I love a bit of NONSENSE, me.

 

[dougdeep]

Terrible post, it needs better punctuation and the use of paragraphs.

 

[Row Z Creased Shirt]

My point was that I find the fickleness of some of our fans to be quite astonishing. We have a team full of youngsters who have come on leaps and bounds but they are bound to have good spells and bad spells, given their lack of experience. We also have a rookie manager who is still learning the ropes. But on here, the fans just don't seem to get that. We win some games, people talk of automatic promotion, we lose some, people talk of the conference. And as far as the Falmer thing goes, I don't think much has changed recently.

But if you want to continue being a miserablist, be my guest.

Spot on Juan. The fickleness and impatience of some of our fans is absolutely amazing.

 

[Jim in the West]

Dick and Martin Perry have gone all quiet haven't they?Dean Wilkins is working with a youth team and the older pros have had it.No foresight to get some roofs over the poorly planned Withdean stadium. I couldn't get a season ticket this year cos of my job but I have been one for ten years before hand but for the quality on the pitch and the entertainment...well £24.50 is not value for money now is it?Martin Perry's so called expertease now sound like expert bullshit and Dick Knight's marketing ideas haven't hit the ground running have they?All this plus the added bonus of the chaps putting all their eggs in one basket for Falmer and no plan B are becoming very transparent.They are not providing the supporters with value for money hense the crowds dwindling dramatically. We should be selling this ground out!Plus the fact that all the blocks have got mixed supporters all over the shop.Behind the goal should be singing all around to create a small amount of collective atmosphere x

The appropriately named "nutter" has come up with some amazing bollocks here.

1. Dick and Martin Perry have gone all quiet. Well, I'm not sure I want to be hearing from the Chairman and Chief Exec all the time. I'd much rather listen to the Manager.

2. No foresight to get some rooves. This is a planning issue....don't think that the club hasn't tried.

3. £24.50 is not value for money now. Everyone acknowledges that Season Ticket prices are over-priced at Withdean. They have been since 1999. Part of the cost is to cover the Park & Ride and other public transport initiatives which the club is obliged to provide. But the main reason is simply to keep the club afloat. Personally I'd rather be paying £24.50 than £18 if it means the club staying afloat. Remember, uniquely amongst all Football League clubs, we are fighting a long-drawn out planning battle which has so far cost circa £3m.

4. All eggs in one Falmer basket. Pray tell me what the alternative is? (and please don't include Withdean, Waterhall or Sheepcote Valley)

5. We should be selling this ground out. Well, if we had a decent stadium we'd certainly be getting 8,000 or more.

The thing is, if you want to look for negatives, there are plenty to be found. However, if you want to look for positives there are many of those too.

For example, yesterday 8 of the starting 11 were born in Sussex, and all of them were a product of the club's youth system - you're right, many of them were playing in the youth team last year....but to me, that just shows the type of foresight which you claim the club doesn't have. The likes of Rents, Lynch, Robinson, Cox, Hammond, Hinshelwood, Gatting, El Abd, etc have been nurtured over many years - and the reward is there for all to see. I haven't worked it out, but I'd imagine the average age of the team yesterday was around 22 - certainly only Butters and Mayo were over 23. Players at that age lack the consistency which experience brings. It'll come. But lets not pillory everything about the club just because we've lost a few games.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Why does Perry keep getting blame for LDC and the Government dragging the Falmer issue out?

Perry was brought in to get Falmer, end of. He will stand or fall by this irrespective of the Government or Lewes. We all knew that building on an area of oustanding natural beauty would be difficult, Perry would also have been aware of this country's laborious planning processes. Perry and the club knew all the risks when deciding on the Falmer, with no plan B, strategy.

Let's wait until we get a final verdict on Falmer.

 

[Dave the OAP]

I was informed some time ago that the structures in the south stand are of a temporary nature and such would not withstand the weight and ordanace of a roof over them.

When they were built they were never intended to be permanent and therefore not designed as such.

Would you guys rather we spend a couple of million we havent got on that ( even though the planning authority would tell us to feck off )or wait for the Falmer result?

 

[Happy Seagull]

Perry was brought in to get Falmer, end of. He will stand or fall by this irrespective of the Government or Lewes. We all knew that building on an area of oustanding natural beauty would be difficult, Perry would also have been aware of this country's laborious planning processes. Perry and the club knew all the risks when deciding on the Falmer, with no plan B, strategy.

Let's wait until we get a final verdict on Falmer.

Exactly. If you want have a moan at the guy if he fails, but to blame him because he hasn't delivered yet is pathetic. If we were a northern club, we'd probably have all been sitting in our lovely new stadium yesterday. Unfortunately we have a bunch of ****s to deal with down south.

 

[Beach Hut]

Exactly. If you want have a moan at the guy if he fails, but to blame him because he hasn't delivered yet is pathetic. If we were a northern club, we'd probably have all been sitting in our lovely new stadium yesterday. Unfortunately we have a bunch of ****s to deal with down south.

Getting rather boring this but I agree (again).

The ticket system needs a tweak but hardly his fault all this shit that is going on from LDC and we would have a nice new Stadium now if up North.

Perhaps we should re-locate to New Brighton

 

[Goring Gull]

My point was that I find the fickleness of some of our fans to be quite astonishing. We have a team full of youngsters who have come on leaps and bounds but they are bound to have good spells and bad spells, given their lack of experience. We also have a rookie manager who is still learning the ropes. But on here, the fans just don't seem to get that. We win some games, people talk of automatic promotion, we lose some, people talk of the conference. And as far as the Falmer thing goes, I don't think much has changed recently.

But if you want to continue being a miserablist, be my guest.

Problem is Sussex is not a working class football hotbed such as Newcastle, Sunderland, Manchester, Liverpool parts of London etc.

Kids these days want to be associated with success

Man u, chelsea etc are on sky every other week so you can watch this for a lot less than £24.50 a pop

The marketing arm at the club is rubbish, absolutely shocking i could do a better job than these buffoons at promoting the club in the area at the right levels and at minimal cost.

Brighton is now a TOWN FULL OF COCKNEYS who could not give aflying fcuk about the Albion in fact half of these types probably don't know we even have a football team.

Falmer without it, it's all over anyway.

 

[Jim in the West]

The marketing arm at the club is rubbish, absolutely shocking i could do a better job than these buffoons at promoting the club in the area at the right levels and at minimal cost.

Why don't you write to the club listing all your ideas?

 

[sten]

Problem is Sussex is not a working class football hotbed such as Newcastle, Sunderland, Manchester, Liverpool parts of London etc.

Kids these days want to be associated with success

Man u, chelsea etc are on sky every other week so you can watch this for a lot less than £24.50 a pop

The marketing arm at the club is rubbish, absolutely shocking i could do a better job than these buffoons at promoting the club in the area at the right levels and at minimal cost.

Brighton is now a TOWN FULL OF COCKNEYS who could not give aflying fcuk about the Albion in fact half of these types probably don't know we even have a football team.

Falmer without it, it's all over anyway.

That's about the gist of it ,but we have all known this for years. We have about 5 thousand die hards and these numbers will dwindle in the next year or so if the Falmer nonsense isn't sorted.Ldc will pay a heavy price eventually. Keep the faith.

 

[Goring Gull]

Why don't you write to the club listing all your ideas?

It's just basic things-

The government and Schools are always encouraged to get kids into sport so why do the Albion get involved within East and West Sussex at Primary level to encourage sport not neccesarily just football but get their name around at an early age might even be some sort of grants available for this- offer prizes of days at Withdean, meet the players - holiday time soccer schools with players regualraly visiting the schools - lets face it the players have enough time on their hands.
Free school trips round the ground - although theres not much to see kids aged 8-11 would love it. Yes it would take a bit of organising and some set up costs for literature but in the long run - it could convert into ticket sales.

The club need to get in the minds of both the kids and parents at an early age before the Man U and Chelsea marketing machines get in if they only got 4 out of every 10 kids we'd be laughing

 

[Goring Gull]

That's about the gist of it ,but we have all known this for years. We have about 5 thousand die hards and these numbers will dwindle in the next year or so if the Falmer nonsense isn't sorted.Ldc will pay a heavy price eventually. Keep the faith.

How will LDC pay a heavy price? They won't care.