The unwanted breakfast

[daveinprague]

Im not in UK...you take what you can get!

 

[brakespear]

This would be the Guardian newspaper whose editorial this week praised a Selfridges employee for refusing to serve EDL leader Tommy Robinson as a matter of conscience having previously got on their high horse about Christian B&B owners who banned homosexuals also as a matter of conscience.

You know, the one with all those public school & Oxbridge educated columnists and editors who write so often about the Bullingdon Club and elitism in Government.

Crystal clarity, my arse.

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[Nibble]

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How dare the Guardian employ educated people. I prefer those journalists who phone tap murdered paedophile victims phones and offer homeless girls 50 quid for sex to get a story, much nicer people.

 

[daveinprague]

Im amazed theres so many 'Guardian' haters, who know so much about its content, and I dont just mean NSC.

 

[Buzzer]

You want stories of dodgy journalists involved in smears and phone-hacking? I suggest you google the name David Leigh ex-investigative journalist at the Guardian and who has some incredibly shady stories written about him. Private Eye

Maybe you weren't aware that the Guardian newspaper recently criticised the BBC for having 'off payroll' contracts. Guess which newspaper - along with every other has 'off payroll' contracts as standard.

The Guardian newspaper has repeatedly attacked big businesses and, for instance, Lord Ashcroft's tax arrangements especially in the 'paradise islands' such as the Caymans. Guardian Media Group has for years used Cayman Islands based tax companies to slash its UK corporation tax bill.

The Guardian newspaper has led the attack on zero hour contracts recently. Guess which media group writes this into new admin (canteen/clerical/distribution etc) staff contracts: “the nature of your work as a casual is intermittent and will vary from week to week. There is no obligation on GMN to provide you with work continuously or otherwise.”

Guess which newspaper's education editor who frequently espouses socialist solutions to modern education challenges sends her daughter to private school?

The simple fact is that the guardian is every bit as hypocritical as the Telegraph, Times, Mail, Mirror and Sun. It just happens to pander to your political views and you choose to ignore the hypocrisy.

 

[Buzzer]

Im amazed theres so many 'Guardian' haters, who know so much about its content, and I dont just mean NSC.

That's because lots of people read Private Eye and the like.

 

[Nibble]

You want stories of dodgy journalists involved in smears and phone-hacking? I suggest you google the name David Leigh ex-investigative journalist at the Guardian and who has some incredibly shady stories written about him. Private Eye

Maybe you weren't aware that the Guardian newspaper recently criticised the BBC for having 'off payroll' contracts. Guess which newspaper - along with every other has 'off payroll' contracts as standard.

The Guardian newspaper has repeatedly attacked big businesses and, for instance, Lord Ashcroft's tax arrangements especially in the 'paradise islands' such as the Caymans. Guardian Media Group has for years used Cayman Islands based tax companies to slash its UK corporation tax bill.

The Guardian newspaper has led the attack on zero hour contracts recently. Guess which media group writes this into new admin (canteen/clerical/distribution etc) staff contracts: “the nature of your work as a casual is intermittent and will vary from week to week. There is no obligation on GMN to provide you with work continuously or otherwise.”

Guess which newspaper's education editor who frequently espouses socialist solutions to modern education challenges sends her daughter to private school?

The simple fact is that the guardian is every bit as hypocritical as the Telegraph, Times, Mail, Mirror and Sun. It just happens to pander to your political views and you choose to ignore the hypocrisy.

I'm well aware of some of the ins and outs of the paper. It has its faults like all papers. What it also has are well written articles about stuff you don't find in other daily papers and a cracking little crossword.

 

[daveinprague]

I miss 'Private Eye' now youve mentioned it.. :-(
Havinig said that, I dont think that many people read it to justify their knowledge of content of the Guardian.

 

[Buzzer]

I'm well aware of some of the ins and outs of the paper. It has its faults like all papers. What it also has are well written articles about stuff you don't find in other daily papers and a cracking little crossword.

I think we'll have to agree to disagree. What it has, in my opinion, are the same articles as the Torygraph and Indie and Times, just written to suit your political opinions. Telegraph crossword beats it hands down too.

What irks me is the mindset of Guardian readers. They have a superiority complex borne of the mistaken belief that they are receiving the real truth, unadulterated and that those who don't read the Guardian are not as clever, cosmopolitan nor as well-adjusted.

 

[Nibble]

Private Eye. I see it's point and am glad it's there but truly, deeply, critically unfunny. Much like Hislop himself. Terminally unfunny gubbins.

 

[Nibble]

I think we'll have to agree to disagree. What it has, in my opinion, are the same articles as the Torygraph and Indie and Times, just written to suit your political opinions. Telegraph crossword beats it hands down too.

What irks me is the mindset of Guardian readers. They have a superiority complex borne of the mistaken belief that they are receiving the real truth, unadulterated and that those who don't read the Guardian are not as clever, cosmopolitan nor as well-adjusted.

No, no. What you have is a perception of Guardian readers. My Stepfather is far and wide one of the most intelligent men I know. Wise, witty and knowledgable. Reads the Mail. I buy the Guardian about once a week, weekends if good articles. Yes, of course it panders to a leftist readership, all papers have their leanings. I don't think non-guardian readers are less intelligent. What does get on my tits is when people rail against the Guardian in a bid to sound beyond clever. It's transparent and dull.

 

[The Large One]

What irks me is the mindset of Guardian readers. They have a superiority complex borne of the mistaken belief that they are receiving the real truth, unadulterated and that those who don't read the Guardian are not as clever, cosmopolitan nor as well-adjusted.

Do they? Oh OK.

Nothing like a half-baked generalisation, combined with an hors service irony meter, to kick-start the weekend...

 

[Buzzer]

What does get on my tits is when people rail against the Guardian in a bid to sound beyond clever.

Sorry, you'll have to run that past me again. I assume it's aimed at me but for the life of me I have no idea what 'beyond clever' rmeans. I don't like the Guardian because of its blatant hypocrisy and moralising. I dislike the way Guardian readers sneer at those who choose not to read it - it's quite evident from more than one Guardian reader in just this thread alone. How is that being 'beyond clever'?

 

[daveinprague]

<= Doesnt read any UK papers other than than Arsegas online for Albion news.
:-D

Which is of course, a whole other issue haha

 

[Nibble]

Sorry, you'll have to run that past me again. I assume it's aimed at me but for the life of me I have no idea what 'beyond clever' rmeans. I don't like the Guardian because of its blatant hypocrisy and moralising. I dislike the way Guardian readers sneer at those who choose not to read it - it's quite evident from more than one Guardian reader in just this thread alone. How is that being 'beyond clever'?

You really don't understand the irony of your last couple of posts do you. Come back to me when you achieve some level of self awareness.

 

[Buzzer]

Do they? Oh OK.

Nothing like a half-baked generalisation, combined with an hors service irony meter, to kick-start the weekend...

Half-baked? I've given example after example of its hypocrisy. You've just given us a smug platitude that your opinions based on reading the Guardian are absolutely the right ones.

And where the hell does irony come into all this? I've just blown apart your claim of crystal clear thinking from the Guardian. It's a pretty weak comeback trying to go down the 'how ironic' route. I've not held up a rival newspaper as evidence for the prosecution (Private Eye is, in the broadest sense, a neutral here) and I've certainly not claimed nor I hope insinuated that I'm cleverer because of which newspaper I read.

 

[Buzzer]

You really don't understand the irony of your last couple of posts do you. Come back to me when you achieve some level of self awareness.

Is that it? I've asked specifically for a clarification and all I've got is a sneery "come back when you're self-aware". Do you honestly think this is the way that grown-ups debate things? From where I'm sitting that just looks like obfuscation.

 

[Frutos]

What an odd thread.

 

[The Large One]

Half-baked? I've given example after example of its hypocrisy. You've just given us a smug platitude that your opinions based on reading the Guardian are absolutely the right ones.

And where the hell does irony come into all this? I've just blown apart your claim of crystal clear thinking from the Guardian. It's a pretty weak comeback trying to go down the 'how ironic' route. I've not held up a rival newspaper as evidence for the prosecution (Private Eye is, in the broadest sense, a neutral here) and I've certainly not claimed nor I hope insinuated that I'm cleverer because of which newspaper I read.

I don't give a toss about the Guardian or its readers or how clever they think they are or how clever someone else thinks they are or its running or its hypocrisy. Why should I? However, well done you for blowing apart a meaningless throw away remark designed to wind-up the other poster. Seems it's had a bigger effect on someone else instead.

 

[daveinprague]

Its taking my mind off the fact that a bar close to my gaff has a naked woman serving beer tonight, and a lesbian show at midnight...dont stop it....