The incident in Southend town centre

[Tyrone Biggums]

Whats the point of hard men at football matches?

The real hard men are in UFC these days.

You go to football to watch football.

f*** off to UFC(and the like) if you think you're that hard.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

Apparently so! Is there a thread somewhere? Must be fantastic.

My recollection is that it was much like any other game.

 

[Brighton M]

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

That lady does look quite hard.

I can understand the police presence now.

 

[brightonian finest]

Brighton 1 old bill 0

 

[dolphin123]

Brighton 1 old bill 0

Brighton 2 Old bill 0

Southend at home.

 

[brightonian finest]

Brighton 2 Old bill 0

Southend at home.

That is correct

 

[The Large One]

PC brigade on here
Good to see another decent bha turnout this season,We've been pretty active this year,its a positive and glad that teams wont walk all over us at Falmer.

Aah well at least it was away from the games and hopefully women and kids.
On a sidenote its always nice to know at least there are a few 'fans' that will hold there own.

I know i'll get slated for this from the pc brigade but u have to remember that in the old days brighton did have a tasty and active 'firm' - nothing worse than a group who wont stand there ground and run away.

Nothing wrong with having a firm as its traditional in england,and us english do like a good old punch up

What the people on here fail to grasp in their blinkered minds is that there is a whole culture surrounding football (clothing, music, and yes, fighting) which is as important as what goes on on the football pitch. I have lost count of the England aways (mostly friendlies admitidly) where I have travelled to another country and not bothered going to the game as I was having too much fun in the town centre.

Have you insecure, socially-deficient, overly-repressed homosexuals all been introduced to each other yet? You big hard mincers should get on like a house on fire.

:safeway :safeway :safeway

 

[Gully]

To all of those who think it is clever, funny or manly in some warped way to get involved in football violence then I suggest you watch this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsZcQbdm4Nk&feature=fvw

It is almost 25 years since Heysel, a night I will never forget having watched the game in the company of friends, including an Italian. There are lots of things that this country and its people have done in my lifetime, many have been to the benefit of others, but on that night I was ashamed to be English.

Football is a partisan sport, we all swear undying loyalty to the teams we follow, it is that simple. However there are many ways to show that affiliation, be it singing songs, wearing a scarf or merely drinking from a mug with your teams name on it at work. However, at times that loyalty turns to violence, at best it can end in a loss of face or a bloody nose, but on that sad night in Brussels 39 people lost their lives due to the actions of a minority.

If those who think it is clever to get involved in or perpetrate these acts are still proud of what they do then you are more stupid than even your justifications suggest.

 

[The Merry Prankster]

i always note that there's a lot of "holier then thou" bull posted on here by a lot of people who simply sit at home and make judgements without having anything like all the facts at their disposal
i don't suppose it'll take much soul-searching, you all know who you are
and you’re all incredibly quick to pass these judgements aren’t you
who the hell do you think you are?
i have supported albion for years and go both home and away - as much as is possible - oh, and i was actually at the southend game too [i.e. not sitting listening at home and pontificating and whinging from afar]
i’ve seen it all too many times before but yesterday i became a a victim of it….
i did nothing wrong, had been nowhere near the seafront or any trouble and to be honest, i hadn't even said boo to a goose all day, but on leaving the ground i was manhandled and shoved into the "naughty group" by the police and we were then held, penned in, for a while and then "escorted" [publicly paraded] to the train station
and may i also just let you know that these police did everything they could to provoke reaction from this group of us
they were extremely sarcastic and rude - yes I’m a grown-up and yes i know that old chestnut "sticks and stones may break my bones" [unless however something is said to them, when of course, it’s suddenly an entirely different matter!]
the worse thing was their manhandling and repeated and continual shoving, this was entirely unnecessary
when i politely asked one of them to stop his continual shoving me in the back he snarled back “or what?” with menace, like the bully he was
on the day i was in a group of three men and two women who had, as usual, caused no trouble whatsoever but was i not quite so placid i might well have reacted and possibly retaliated to this totally over the top, patronising, heavy handed and overly aggressive treatment and in doing so become yet another casualty and a marked man and someone you could all hang draw and quarter from your laptops
i don't suppose you care a hoot for the humiliation we had to endure when being “escorted” to the station - all the people on the streets and in their cars seeing us paraded in such a fashion and staring, believing us to be "hooligans"
and what if my or any of my fellow ''marchers” employers saw us? although we were all totally innocent [and no-one was charged for anything btw] in a group surrounded by police? what assumptions might they make?
troublemakers need to be stopped and the police should indeed enforce our laws and endeavour to keep us all safe but let's keep it real and not also forget that this ridiculous charade is all part of the plan that helps the police perpetuate the trouble at football myth and justify their presence, behaviour and overtime
while i have to agree that there are indeed troublemaking idiots who go to football, the sad thing is that imo most of them are wearing uniforms with numbers on the shoulders


right then, back to the darkness i go
all the best
bob

Interesting that you seem to have a bad word for everyone, from people who don't even go to games to the forces of law and order but none for the hoolies who create the problem in the first place, some of whom were something of a captive audience pinned in with you as they were. And before you start I go to nearly every game home and away.

 

[brightonian finest]

To all of those who think it is clever, funny or manly in some warped way to get involved in football violence then I suggest you watch this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsZcQbdm4Nk&feature=fvw

It is almost 25 years since Heysel, a night I will never forget having watched the game in the company of friends, including an Italian. There are lots of things that this country and its people have done in my lifetime, many have been to the benefit of others, but on that night I was ashamed to be English.

Football is a partisan sport, we all swear undying loyalty to the teams we follow, it is that simple. However there are many ways to show that affiliation, be it singing songs, wearing a scarf or merely drinking from a mug with your teams name on it at work. However, at times that loyalty turns to violence, at best it can end in a loss of face or a bloody nose, but on that sad night in Brussels 39 people lost their lives due to the actions of a minority.

If those who think it is clever to get involved in or perpetrate these acts are still proud of what they do then you are more stupid than even your justifications suggest.

good post...but times have changed and things dont happen in the ground often now

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

Acting on information received , police officers wait for Albion's firm to board the LoveBus.

 

[Caveman]

WTF, there's only about 10 of them. Lot of fuss about nothing.

Indeed, there must be 3 coppers to ever Brighton fan in that pic. Slight overkill?

 

[Brighton till i die]

Fuuuuuuuuucking HELL.

What a load of drivel over one little scrap. Get a f***ing grip some of you.

Build a bridge and get over it, its not THAT bad.

 

[empire]

come on guys,i estimated 10 pages,only 8 at the mo,your letting yourselves down

 

[RSBLUEANDWHITEARMY]

To all of those who think it is clever, funny or manly in some warped way to get involved in football violence then I suggest you watch this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsZcQbdm4Nk&feature=fvw

It is almost 25 years since Heysel, a night I will never forget having watched the game in the company of friends, including an Italian. There are lots of things that this country and its people have done in my lifetime, many have been to the benefit of others, but on that night I was ashamed to be English.

Football is a partisan sport, we all swear undying loyalty to the teams we follow, it is that simple. However there are many ways to show that affiliation, be it singing songs, wearing a scarf or merely drinking from a mug with your teams name on it at work. However, at times that loyalty turns to violence, at best it can end in a loss of face or a bloody nose, but on that sad night in Brussels 39 people lost their lives due to the actions of a minority.

If those who think it is clever to get involved in or perpetrate these acts are still proud of what they do then you are more stupid than even your justifications suggest.

You write like there was just one side of the story on that very tragic night. Don't tell me that the Liverpool fans charged them for no good reason, they where provoked and I agree the 39 who did lose their life shouldn't have but that is not only the blame of the Liverpool fans. I'm afraid the Juventus fans picked the wrong set of fans to 'start' on. Everyone knew Liverpool fans are notorious for their extreme violent behavior and that night showed why they where/are so notorious for violence.
I'm afraid there are men who enjoy a good old fight and football seems to be the place where it happens, ever since the 70's and there is nothing me or you can do about it. Deal with it.

 

[dougdeep]

. Deal with it.

Blimey, you're so hard.

 

[RSBLUEANDWHITEARMY]

It's football. get over it. Its good we have a bit of a firm with us. Be shit if we had nothing what with our poof links etc. You lot are too soft.

Couldn't agree more and no I didn't have any involvement yesterday I just think people on here are complaining about things they cannot do anything about, almost like they don't expect any 'rough' men following Brighton.

 

[RSBLUEANDWHITEARMY]

Blimey, you're so hard.

Please do me a favour, grow up.

 

[Sooty the Thief]

You write like there was just one side of the story on that very tragic night. Don't tell me that the Liverpool fans charged them for no good reason, they where provoked and I agree the 39 who did lose their life shouldn't have but that is not only the blame of the Liverpool fans. I'm afraid the Juventus fans picked the wrong set of fans to 'start' on. Everyone knew Liverpool fans are notorious for their extreme violent behavior and that night showed why they where/are so notorious for violence.
I'm afraid there are men who enjoy a good old fight and football seems to be the place where it happens, ever since the 70's and there is nothing me or you can do about it. Deal with it.

I am afraid you are very wrong there mate. The Italians charged inside the ground were not inciting the Liverpool supporters, they were what has become known there days as 'scarfers'. The Liverpool supporters behind the goal were taking part in running the Italians, thus taking the end for themselves. This was a usual practice in Europe where the bowl stadia with just mesh wire seperation made this practice relativley easy.

The section next to where the Liverpool fans were situated were tickets on general sale ie not given to Juve or Liverpool football clubs to sell, although the majority were sold to Italians oin the black market.

The Liverpool fans were hell bent on getting some sort of revenge that day for the treatment they received in Roma in the Euro final the year before where they played Roma. Numerous scousers were stabbed and slashed inside and outside the ground although very little of this was reported in the media.

On the day of the disaster Liverpool fans had been drinking all day in the main square in the sun. Reports are that supporters form other clubs were in attendance as well and National Front leaflets were being handed out. There were some skirmishes with the Italians on the way to the ground but nothing major.

The main cause of this tragedy was the ramshackle stadium and the ticketing/segragation issue.