[Travel] The impending Easter weekend 'second homes' exodus

[portslade seagull]

The only 2nd home I'll be going to is from the bed then travelling to the settee which is about 25ft

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

The only 2nd home I'll be going to is from the bed then travelling to the settee which is about 25ft

The only 2nd home I'll be going to is the offie up the road

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

I recall a Not the Nine O'clock News sketch around this time - 'Come Home to a Real Fire' (the slogan of the National Coal Board) followed by the words 'Buy a 2nd home in Wales' - pictures of a burning cottage.

And to Bread of Heaven ......... "Blodwyn, Gwenda, Rhianna, Bronwen ..... laid in Wales, laid in Wales".

 

[Barham's tash]

I thought tonight's news was very light on hospital meltdown coverage in what was been the blackest day for uk deaths so far, but plenty of coverage speculating about when the lockdown might be lifted.

Yep, it’s almost like the numbers are irrelevant and all anyone cares about is making use of the weather and having a bbq with Tarquin in the country.

There’s no point even thinking about any kind of release of the lockdown. If anything it should be tightened.

 

[Fungus]

In Cornwall, if you live close to a holiday home or someones 2nd home and you see signs of life, you can contact Cornwall council and they will turf them out, flog them, search for any uneaten pasties and close the property down.

Force them to eat Ginsters or Warrens pasties. That'll teach 'em.

 

[Fungus]

There’s only one major hospital in Cornwall (in Truro) so the locals are really worried that it will be overrun with corona virus brought down there by the holiday homers.

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And it's usually on the highest alert level at the best of times - in the winter due to "normal" flu, and in the summer due to sheer numbers of visitors from up-country.

 

[Rodney Thomas]

I am still astounded that people have holiday homes in ****ing Cornwall!

I mean, they cost a fortune AND you have to go to Cornwall every year...

 

[Arthur]

Playing devils advocate here but what is the issue with someone using their second home as long as they go into lockdown when they get there?

 

[Driver8]

Playing devils advocate here but what is the issue with someone using their second home as long as they go into lockdown when they get there?

Because

a) They may bring the virus with them and
b) There aren’t enough hospital beds for locals let alone extra visitors.
c) It’s not an essential journey to get here.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Playing devils advocate here but what is the issue with someone using their second home as long as they go into lockdown when they get there?

They have the potential to be taking the virus with them, or bringing it back. Each stop at a petrol station, toilet break, shop etc. is a potential to transmit the virus.

If we all stick to our locality as much as possible we keep the virus locked down. Yes our little locality might get it, but then we won't be transmitting it to another locality and vice-versa. This is why people shouldn't even be travelling to say the Devil's Dyke etc. because it attracts people from different localities and can be a hub for transmitting.

There is no devil's advocate on this, it's fairly simple that the virus travels with human movement. Lock down the movement, you lock down the virus.

 

[Tim Over Whelmed]

Won’t happen imho, no one is going to be stupid enough to hit the motorway in a motorhome with bicycles on the back etc. let alone hitch up a caravan to a car filled with family.

It's not motor homes it's Porsche Cayenne's with Tarquin and Tabetha in tow, having left leafy North London to join the family down in Gloucestershire etc

 

[Tim Over Whelmed]

Playing devils advocate here but what is the issue with someone using their second home as long as they go into lockdown when they get there?

But people don't stay put, they'll visit shops, IF they already have the virus they'll need medical treatment which may be already under pressure and finally, because the government told us to stay put not go wherever you feel is best for you and then screw everyone else. That's my take for what it's worth.

 

[Bold Seagull]

It's not motor homes it's Porsche Cayenne's with Tarquin and Tabetha in tow, having left leafy North London to join the family down in Gloucestershire etc

Yes but so far it's only chief medical officers who think it's okay.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

The is no devil's advocate on this, it's fairly simple that the virus travels with human movement. Lock down the movement, you lock down the virus.

It's just a bitterly crying shame that those supposedly in charge of our public health weren't smart enough to realise this earlydoors. When northern Italy first went into lockdown, there were TWENTY flights a day plying their trade to and from the UK with little or no checks carried out at airports at either end on those travellers getting off those flights. Easy to be wise after the event, but wasnt that much more difficult to be wise DURING the event. It was basic common sense to shut that shit down earlydoors. Tho I guess that was before that vile 'herd mentality' strategy got thoroughly discredited when hmgov were finally jolted into the reality of the projected number of deaths involved

 

[Papa Lazarou]

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[lost in london]

Many areas such as Devon, Cornwall and other UK holiday hotspots are apparently now bracing themselves for an influx from London and other populated areas in the UK, arriving in with their families. Bikes strapped to the back. Roof boxes, caravans, all heading off to their holiday homes to arrive for the Easter break, as though all is well and normal.

I'd fully support the idea of police setting up checkpoints to stop all these herberts in their tracks and turn them round. Going away for the weekend is in direct contravention of all the advice - there is simply NO excuse for travelling to other areas of the country right now, just for a cuffing holiday. I wonder how many folk will end up hospitalised as a direct result.

After being stuck at home with only the supermarket as a "trip out" for the best part of 3 weeks, I might just about lose my shit if I turn on the news and see the M4 clogged with selfish DILBERTS in Porsche Cayenne's towing mobile homes to the west country.

Is there actually any evidence that people are planning on doing that in any material way? Sounds like you might be at danger of getting riled up about a hypothetical issue there otherwise, something best avoided right now given there are a lot of actual things to worry about.

 

[Bold Seagull]

It's just a bitterly crying shame that those supposedly in charge of our public health weren't smart enough to realise this earlydoors. When northern Italy first went into lockdown, there were TWENTY flights a day plying their trade to and from the UK while little or no checks carried out at airports at either end on those travellers getting off those flights. Easy to be wise after the event, but wasnt that much more difficult to be wise DURING the event. It was basic common sense to shut that shit down earlydoors. Tho I guess that was before that vile 'herd mentality' strategy got thoroughly discredited when hmgov were finally jolted into the reality of the projected number of deaths involved

What happened was 'herd mentality' needed re-branding because as you have pointed out on numerous occasions, the thought of it is vile and obscene because deaths become an abstract statistic and the scientists didn't really realise the public would jump on it in that way. However, if some predictions are right, that the number of infections is far higher than anyone realises because the asymptomatic cases are far higher, then like it or loath it, herd immunity is what is actually happening, all we're doing is slowing it as much as possible, and we will have to until we have a vaccine that can accelerate the immunity. Wuhan is relaxing it's lockdown, most likely because so many now have the antibodies, otherwise it would just start spreading again.

The criticism is rightly as you said, whether the measures should have been introduced sooner. All that changed in the strategy was bringing the controls forward as the projections accelerated. Whitty and Vallance said we'd have lockdown for the biggest impact, and that's what they did. All they didn't do was mention the word 'herd' again, doesn't mean that actually that is what the world is experiencing and any relaxing of lock downs will be because immunity is growing and transmissions falling.

 

[METALMICKY]

Many areas such as Devon, Cornwall and other UK holiday hotspots are apparently now bracing themselves for an influx from London and other populated areas in the UK, arriving in with their families. Bikes strapped to the back. Roof boxes, caravans, all heading off to their holiday homes to arrive for the Easter break, as though all is well and normal.

I'd fully support the idea of police setting up checkpoints to stop all these herberts in their tracks and turn them round. Going away for the weekend is in direct contravention of all the advice - there is simply NO excuse for travelling to other areas of the country right now, just for a cuffing holiday. I wonder how many folk will end up hospitalised as a direct result.

After being stuck at home with only the supermarket as a "trip out" for the best part of 3 weeks, I might just about lose my shit if I turn on the news and see the M4 clogged with selfish DILBERTS in Porsche Cayenne's towing mobile homes to the west country.

Being a bit of a poor socialist I'm all for hanging people with second homes in normal times. Hoseseason/Haven caravans are acceptable

 

[Bold Seagull]

Is there actually any evidence that people are planning on doing that in any material way? Sounds like you might be at danger of getting riled up about a hypothetical issue there otherwise, something best avoided right now given there are a lot of actual things to worry about.

Police have already been stopping families travelling to the Lake District and other places and having to turn them back. They basically police escort them back to the motorway and see them on their way.