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[Politics] The General Election Thread

How are you voting?

  • Conservative and Unionist Party

    Votes: 176 32.3%
  • Labour Party

    Votes: 146 26.8%
  • Liberal Democrat’s

    Votes: 139 25.5%
  • Green Party

    Votes: 44 8.1%
  • Independent Candidate

    Votes: 4 0.7%
  • Monster Raving Looney Party

    Votes: 7 1.3%
  • Other

    Votes: 29 5.3%

  • Total voters
    545
  • Poll closed .


vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
27,902
In taxation, they don’t though.

The NSC record is stuck, but those centrist or centre-left nations tax almost everyone, far higher. If we seek that Swedish or Finnish socio-economic system, firstly our politicians should tell the truth on how we all need to fund it, then the voting public will get behind it (I hope).

It will be through higher taxation, just like Sweden and Finland, however, that is based on people receiving higher wages than the UK for what they do. In the UK wages are screwed to the floor at lower socio-economic levels so there is frankly, less to tax.
 




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,326
It will be through higher taxation, just like Sweden and Finland, however, that is based on people receiving higher wages than the UK for what they do. In the UK wages are screwed to the floor at lower socio-economic levels so there is frankly, less to tax.

so you want to have higher wages so you can pay more tax?
 




vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
27,902






Stat Brother

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
73,853
West west west Sussex
Finally the best day of this election arrives.

No lying scumbags on the TV or radio all day.

What's not to love. :thumbsup:
 




Stat Brother

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
73,853
West west west Sussex
I can't say I get this, what is the reason behind it?

Seems out dated with social media.
Just embrace it.

We might even get to watch/listen to some adults speaking like grown ups.
 




Guinness Boy

Tofu eating wokerati
Helpful Moderator
NSC Patron
Jul 23, 2003
34,289
Up and Coming Sunny Portslade
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If you want to beat the Tories you don't propose watered down Tory policies - which you inevitably end up implementing as Tory cuts - you beat the Tories by demonstrating that there is a different way - a way that cares about people not profit - that works for the many not the few - and that is not dictated to by the high priests of the market, the banks and the stock exchange.

And yet your version of it hasn’t won an election since the 70s and won’t today. The most socialist Labour leader in recent years can’t beat a fat eejit who hides in fridges, dodges debate, can’t look at the results of his social policies on a phone, lies constantly and is about to deliver five years of neoliberalism on steroids.

Makes you wonder, doesn’t it?


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D

Deleted member 2719

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Who will be paying for this misogynist fantasy, you or the taxpayers?
A month of comtemplation and then they return re-invigorated, are you sure this is going to work for you?

I have no problem with women, just generally gobby aggressive people who are out of their depth.

It would make good TV though.
 


D

Deleted member 2719

Guest
Be careful about what you vote for, a hung parliament is a dead one, we already know that.

Remember we are Oven ready.

'Get Brexit Done'
 

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Hugo Rune

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Feb 23, 2012
21,649
Brighton
“There is nothing inevitable about young people rejecting the Tories. When Margaret Thatcher secured her 1983 landslide, she did so with a nine-point lead among under 25s. When Theresa May lost her majority, it was partly thanks to Labour’s 35-point lead in the same age group; polling now suggests that advantage has extended to 42 points.

Britain’s young could prove themselves to be our political saviours. They have endured a decade of assaults on their living standards and their beliefs. The Tory elite calculated that this onslaught would have no political consequences because young people would not vote in sufficient numbers for it to matter. This hubris finally collided with reality in 2017, but it was not enough. And so this is the question that will soon be answered. Will enough young people march to polling stations, in the right places, to stop a hard-right Tory government committed to implementing hard Brexit.” Owen Jones.

It’s still all to play for. Let’s hope that our young people are out in force everywhere including Uxbridge and South Ruislip.
 




Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
23,444
Sussex by the Sea
“There is nothing inevitable about young people rejecting the Tories. When Margaret Thatcher secured her 1983 landslide, she did so with a nine-point lead among under 25s. When Theresa May lost her majority, it was partly thanks to Labour’s 35-point lead in the same age group; polling now suggests that advantage has extended to 42 points.

Britain’s young could prove themselves to be our political saviours. They have endured a decade of assaults on their living standards and their beliefs. The Tory elite calculated that this onslaught would have no political consequences because young people would not vote in sufficient numbers for it to matter. This hubris finally collided with reality in 2017, but it was not enough. And so this is the question that will soon be answered. Will enough young people march to polling stations, in the right places, to stop a hard-right Tory government committed to implementing hard Brexit.” Owen Jones.

It’s still all to play for. Let’s hope that our young people are out in force everywhere including Uxbridge and South Ruislip.

If they do, the effect in 5 - 10 years toward financial ruin and subsequent hardships will be for them to suffer
 


nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,626
Gods country fortnightly
“There is nothing inevitable about young people rejecting the Tories. When Margaret Thatcher secured her 1983 landslide, she did so with a nine-point lead among under 25s. When Theresa May lost her majority, it was partly thanks to Labour’s 35-point lead in the same age group; polling now suggests that advantage has extended to 42 points.

Britain’s young could prove themselves to be our political saviours. They have endured a decade of assaults on their living standards and their beliefs. The Tory elite calculated that this onslaught would have no political consequences because young people would not vote in sufficient numbers for it to matter. This hubris finally collided with reality in 2017, but it was not enough. And so this is the question that will soon be answered. Will enough young people march to polling stations, in the right places, to stop a hard-right Tory government committed to implementing hard Brexit.” Owen Jones.

It’s still all to play for. Let’s hope that our young people are out in force everywhere including Uxbridge and South Ruislip.

Johnson offer absolutely nothing for young people. His failure to show up on C4's Climate debate told them all they need to know
 




Weststander

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Aug 25, 2011
64,239
Withdean area
It will be through higher taxation, just like Sweden and Finland, however, that is based on people receiving higher wages than the UK for what they do. In the UK wages are screwed to the floor at lower socio-economic levels so there is frankly, less to tax.

OECD stat’s show that the average salary in the UK is the same as in Sweden and Finland. From that, someone on average earnings, pays 45% in direct taxes. All Swedes and Finns are simply used to having less cash, to pay for their social system.
 




darkwolf666

Well-known member
Nov 8, 2015
7,576
Sittingbourne, Kent
And yet your version of it hasn’t won an election since the 70s and won’t today. The most socialist Labour leader in recent years can’t beat a fat eejit who hides in fridges, dodges debate, can’t look at the results of his social policies on a phone, lies constantly and is about to deliver five years of neoliberalism on steroids.

Makes you wonder, doesn’t it?


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Indeed it does make you wonder, it makes you wonder when we became a nation of "I'm all right Jack's", when we became a nation of self interest, a nation that pledges millions to good causes abroad, yet won't pay a fee extra quid in tax to help the disadvantaged at home. When we became a nation moaning about all the foreigners coming into the country, but are then quite happy to employ those same foreigners on minimum wage (or less), on zero hours contracts.

It makes me wonder when we became a nation of selfish people who have shafted the young, our future, all in the name of greed!

Indeed it does make you wonder!
 




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