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[Politics] The French show the Brits how it is done



That's not the point .... these women planned for retirement and govuk hiked up the age to claim state pension.
Many women of that generation stopped work to have children. I am lucky in that I escaped the extra years by being born before 1950 (only just).
There wasn't the child care available, and women also had the option of paying a 'married women's stamp' which was a smaller contribution, because they would be covered by their husband's NI contributions.
More and more marriages ended in divorce and so that didn't apply.
I went back to work after 7 years after having my two children, and decided I would pay full stamp because I realised I would retire two years before my ex and I wanted a pension of my own instead of having to wait until he was 65.

You see, those under a certain age, have no idea of what a grim situation women have been left in. They think they are being clever, in pointing and saying 'Well, you wanted equality' ha ha ha.

I'll give you one example of an older woman in my family. When she got to 60, her state pension was £11 a week. That was in the 80s.
 

wellquickwoody

Many More Voting Years
Aug 10, 2007
13,291
Melbourne
That's not the point .... these women planned for retirement and govuk hiked up the age to claim state pension.
Equality not the point? Wow.

Men have also seen the retirement age increased too, but that is OK huh? Not as much as that of women I grant you.

It seems feminism can be very one sided, only wanting the bits that suit rather than true equality. Whoever would have thought.
 

pearl

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May 3, 2016
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Behind My Eyes
This brilliant book, first published in 1987, explained how popular tabloid culture and trashy TV programmes were pacifying people and eroding their willingness or ability to think or act.

Of course, Aldous Huxley had also prophesied this much earlier in Brave New World: the population kept quiet and obedient not through surveillance by 'big brother' or direct State-suppression, but endless sources of entertainment, including cheap booze, soft drugs and casual sex. They'd be too pissed, stoned or shagged-out to want to rebel.
Smart phones ... smart homes ...Facial recognition ... Alexa ... cctv ... doorbells that take pictures ... Internet banking ...
 

wellquickwoody

Many More Voting Years
Aug 10, 2007
13,291
Melbourne
Many women of that generation stopped work to have children. I am lucky in that I escaped the extra years by being born before 1950 (only just).
There wasn't the child care available, and women also had the option of paying a 'married women's stamp' which was a smaller contribution, because they would be covered by their husband's NI contributions.
More and more marriages ended in divorce and so that didn't apply.
I went back to work after 7 years after having my two children, and decided I would pay full stamp because I realised I would retire two years before my ex and I wanted a pension of my own instead of having to wait until he was 65.

You see, those under a certain age, have no idea of what a grim situation women have been left in. They think they are being clever, in pointing and saying 'Well, you wanted equality' ha ha ha.

I'll give you one example of an older woman in my family. When she got to 60, her state pension was £11 a week. That was in the 80s.
Jeez you are such a sanctimonious saint on high. My wife is one of those affected by the pension age changes so I am very aware of its consequences. But you are a perfect example of someone who wants to have their cake and eat it. I’m leaving the debate now whilst I can remain polite.
 

pearl

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May 3, 2016
12,303
Behind My Eyes
Equality not the point? Wow.

Men have also seen the retirement age increased too, but that is OK huh? Not as much as that of women I grant you.

It seems feminism can be very one sided, only wanting the bits that suit rather than true equality. Whoever would have thought.
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Peteinblack

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Jun 3, 2004
3,326
Bath, Somerset.
I think there's protesting and then there's needless destruction, environmental damage and risk to people's safety.
As in Climate change? Our government is clamping-down on protests against this
Italy 67 years
U/K 67
Germany 66.5
Netherlands 66.5
Spain 65
France 62
So because workers in other countries have a higher retirement age, the same must be imposed on French workers? A

Another example of the relentless race to the bottom - workers everywhere having changes imposed on them which mean working harder or for longer, or for less pay, or receiving lower occupational pensions when they retire.

They system really is not working for the majority of ordinary working people any more, is it?
Italy 67 years
U/K 67
Germany 66.5
Netherlands 66.5
Spain 65
France 62

Italy 67 years
U/K 67
Germany 66.5
Netherlands 66.5
Spain 65
France 62
 

Dibdab

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Sep 28, 2021
674
And whilst we are all sucking up whatever crap is thrown our way, not able to protest if the police decide they don’t want us too, the biggest transfer of our wealth to the mega rich in history continues to happen in plain sight. We really are screwed.
 

Jeremiah

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Mar 15, 2020
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Hove
Hmmm - live in France and retire at 62 (or possibly 64) or live in England and retire at 67 ? Put like that an extra 5 years working is a small price to pay IMO. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
 

nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
16,490
Gods country fortnightly
Hmmm - live in France and retire at 62 (or possibly 64) or live in England and retire at 67 ? Put like that an extra 5 years working is a small price to pay IMO. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
If you work longer you die younger too, life expectancy here 2 years behind France. Plenty in this government will call that vindication...
 

Neville's Breakfast

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May 1, 2016
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Oxton, Birkenhead

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