Excellent news, sounds like once she's had her booster Covid should be more worried about coming into contact with her!
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Excellent news, sounds like once she's had her booster Covid should be more worried about coming into contact with her!
nickbrighton
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on the face of it, this is really good news and as such should (but wont) be prominent over the news media.
From my understanding, this is exactly what we want, a more transmissible variant with a much reduced negative outcomes, so as to become the dominant strain thus pushing out the more serious ones.
This is what has happened in past pandemics I believe, in order to survive, the virus mutates and becomes more "friendly" and eventually becomes the common cold, or mild flu
If this data from South Africa is repeated we may find ourselves in a much better position in a months time than if the variant hadn't appeared in the first place
Gazwag
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Fignon's Ponytail
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Was thinking about getting her a Marvel costume for Christmas, but apparently that would only be for my benefit
Depends which one out of this lot you find the biggest turn on I suppose...!
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Ish. Whilst respecting the GNT, I'd encourage everyone to read John Burn-Murdoch's new thread crunching the numbers coming out of South Africa.
First tweet here - expand to read the full sequence.
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Early days, but interesting.
With the usual caveats that they have a different demographic and vaccinations profile to say western Europe.
banjo
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Had my booster today. Plenty of Other people having it too.
Billy the Fish
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I think he's splitting hairs about the reasons for the milder infections. IMHO it makes no difference if its caused by people having immunity rather than it genuinely being milder. The outcome is the same, it's a fact in this country that almost everyone has some immunity from vaccination or prior infection.
All the indicators are that it will send a smaller proportion of people to hospital. Nobody knows what that proportion is yet, I still don't see any reason to hit the panic button without any actual evidence.
*Edit* Sorry, I'm a bit tired and hungover after the cricket, didn't actually realise this was the good news thread
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New daily record for boosters
530,086 booster vaccinations in Flag of United Kingdom exc Wales yesterday (448,975 the previous Friday)
Flag of England 483,361
Flag of Scotland 40,144
NI 6,581
The daily average is now above 400k for the first time.
530,086 booster vaccinations in Flag of United Kingdom exc Wales yesterday (448,975 the previous Friday)
Flag of England 483,361
Flag of Scotland 40,144
NI 6,581
The daily average is now above 400k for the first time.
macbeth
Dismembered
big decrease in test positivity % in RSA
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Data dump from previous days it seems, which is why the case number was up as well
The Mole
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In spite of news reports to the contrary, and despite not being built to cope with 1,000,00+ bookings per day,the NHS booking system managed to stay up. The reason people struggled to access it was that they put a throttle on it to prevent it collapsing. Some great work by the support staff.
More encouraging news coming out on the SA numbers………
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-n...on-covid-outbreaks-may-already-running-steam/
Extract
Omicron outbreaks in South African hotspots may be running out of steam less than three weeks after the new variant was identified, data suggests.
Cases in the province of Gauteng – which had surging infections from November – appear to be levelling off, while seven-day infections in Tshwane, one of the early epicentres, are now "relatively flat".
Although recent days have brought large spikes after a computer update led to an extra 37,875 cases being included in the daily count, experts have pointed out that the increases are far shallower once averaged by specimen date.
Louis Rossouw, of the Covid-19 Actuaries Response Group in South Africa, said that although the country had surpassed the peak of previous waves some areas were beginning to see a lull.
"Case growth is steeper than last week but still has slowed down versus November," he said. "In Gauteng, cases are still levelling off. Tshwane cases are relatively flat, with a slight increase in the most recent days."
Statisticians in South Africa have also noted that the case fatality rate – the percentage of people who go on to die from an infection – has fallen considerably since the arrival of omicron.
With the delta variant, around three per cent of infections – one in 33 – were resulting in death, but now that figure has slumped to 0.5 per cent – one in 200 – the lowest it has been throughout the pandemic in South Africa and 10 times lower than in September last year.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-n...on-covid-outbreaks-may-already-running-steam/
Extract
Omicron outbreaks in South African hotspots may be running out of steam less than three weeks after the new variant was identified, data suggests.
Cases in the province of Gauteng – which had surging infections from November – appear to be levelling off, while seven-day infections in Tshwane, one of the early epicentres, are now "relatively flat".
Although recent days have brought large spikes after a computer update led to an extra 37,875 cases being included in the daily count, experts have pointed out that the increases are far shallower once averaged by specimen date.
Louis Rossouw, of the Covid-19 Actuaries Response Group in South Africa, said that although the country had surpassed the peak of previous waves some areas were beginning to see a lull.
"Case growth is steeper than last week but still has slowed down versus November," he said. "In Gauteng, cases are still levelling off. Tshwane cases are relatively flat, with a slight increase in the most recent days."
Statisticians in South Africa have also noted that the case fatality rate – the percentage of people who go on to die from an infection – has fallen considerably since the arrival of omicron.
With the delta variant, around three per cent of infections – one in 33 – were resulting in death, but now that figure has slumped to 0.5 per cent – one in 200 – the lowest it has been throughout the pandemic in South Africa and 10 times lower than in September last year.
It seems quite a few are only noticing they are positive is when they have to test to go into hospital or do something else
Which hopefully backs up it’s mild
Just 11 people died from Covid in South Africa yesterday. That is an astonishingly low number for the amount of infections they are getting, mind blowing. Surely the best way to get rid of Delta is not only vaccines (although we must all get them if we want to join the fight against Covid), it’s not only wearing masks, it’s not only going into lockdown, it’s letting nature take it’s course by having Delta replaced by a much, much weaker strain. We all hope that strain is Omicron. Time is already telling.
Southern Scouse
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The problem with Omicron is not it’s potency but it’s ability to spread. If your over 50 and get the new strain you are more likely to be hospitalised as your body in general is weaker than a 25 year old. That fact will massively affect our (NHS)’s ability to cope at this time. Unfortunately, in my job I have seen many people pass away with covid RELATED illness.
If Omicron puts more people in hospital the fatalities could be higher simply due to the quantity of inpatients and our inability to treat them and other patients effectively,
If Omicron puts more people in hospital the fatalities could be higher simply due to the quantity of inpatients and our inability to treat them and other patients effectively,
Green Cross Code Man
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Um, this is the Good News thread. Have you accidentally found yourself here?
Southern Scouse
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Sorry your correct of course. Good News!!!! Boris said we can vaccinate 1 million people per day!
Miracles are always good news!
BREAKING: Discovery, South Africa's largest health insurer, releases study results that show those who have had two doses of Pfizer vaccine are 70% less likely to be hospitalized compared to the unvaccinated.
Vaccine holds up well before the booster.
Vaccine holds up well before the booster.
Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
There is hope that the figures for SA mortality regarding the recent surge are indicative of lower CFR as the lag between identifying the disease and passing away due to it, is lower than here in England - being only 11 days.
This strengthens the growing evidence that the variant Omicron is either milder or that it is more easily dealt with by those who have prior infection or vaccination.