Norman Potting
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[News] The Coronavirus Good News thread
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Beach Hut
Brighton Bhuna Boy
What is interesting is infections seem now to be around the same for roughly 3 weeks however during that time admissions, people in hospital and deaths have been dramatically reduced.
The only conclusion is the vaccine works so for any doubters on the vaccine the evidence is conclusive, when your time comes, step forward and get the vaccine as not only does it help you it also helps your friends and family.
Hotchilidog
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- Jan 24, 2009
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Absolutely this. The vaccination roll out (in combination with the current lockdown) is working. There is a lot of encouragement to be taken from direction of travel in the current data.
nwgull
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That's not the only conclusion. The other possibility is that the number of infections of school-aged kids has increased - in fact I think stats show that it has - and that the effect of the vaccine in preventing infections in >55s has mitigated this sufficiently such that overall infection rate is flat.
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
It is an interesting question as to whether contested good news is actually real world good news.
It is probably best not to contest good news posts on this thread though.
I'm glad no one quotes that dodgy Imperial College fake professor anymore. I had to leave the thread for a long time as I couldn't bear to see his drivel uncontested.
You can view it as good news that even Ferguson is giving out positive vibes and believes we will be back to "normal" by mid summer, more evidence that all the positive data is conclusive in it direction of travel.
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
I never had a problem with what Ferguson said. The dodgy professor is a guy called Karol Sikora who spouted oft-quoted nonsense !
Such a great graph, especially when you compare it with cases and deaths in Israel which are also absolutely plummeting to virtually inconsequential levels now (although as in the UK, cases did plateau for a while - perhaps until such a point second doses reached a sufficiently prevalent level).
Where this still leaves me scratching my head though (as someone who spent most of his science and maths lessons at school scratching his balls and not paying attention) is why we can't aspire to an end goal of zero-Covid. Take Israel, where the R value is already at 0.55 and dropping with most of the country open. With borders closed surely that has to at some point lead to a petering out of the virus? Even with borders opened (carefully - Brazil probably wouldn't make a good 'corridor' right now), how does that spread beyond any imported cases if the nation's reproduction rate is at a tiny, fractional value due to herd immunity?
Hands up, it's probably not the right thread to answer that question with cold, hard science - it's just that all the data coming out of Israel and to a lesser extent the UK, it seems to me as if (variants aside) the long-term prognosis should be a lot more rosy than we are being told.
I think it's the proof that whilst you might still get infected, the vaccine stops you getting seriously ill. It's fantastic - the absolute plummeting of death and hospital numbers (which started in the O80s - and is now filtering down in line with how the vacc programme has operated) supports this too.
I would say it's neither of these.
It's because the testing of school-aged kids has increased massively and therefore the detection within these has increased.
This can be seen in the sixth graph here: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/24/covid-uk-coronavirus-cases-deaths-vaccinations-today
I would say this is good news that is hardly being mentioned by the media. I think cases are still falling, slowly but surely, with the up-to-date Zoe cases being lower than the week-old tested cases, which is a very good sign (they have been consistently higher for a long time, I believe).
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Also add in that school kids are being supposed to be tested twice a week with lateral flow tests which are notorious for giving false positive results so the number of positives is skewed by that too.
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
I’d debate that......but not on this thread
Rodney Thomas
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Kind reminder that NSC is a broad church and many of us reside in the EU. Perhaps you could keep the EU negatives out of it when focussing good news? I'm all for criticising the EU vaccine programme, but not here please.
Touché on the final comment which was unthinking rather than borne out of any particular agenda (which I don't have by the way). My main point was the rate in which vaccines have taken the UK from a very dark place to a considerably better one, with Italy (a nation currently lagging behind in that sense) used as a reference point.
The good news for anyone, irrespective of where you happen to reside, is that vaccines are incredibly effective against Covid-19. The EU, I'm sure, will catch-up over the coming weeks and months.
drew
Drew
My last post then on this thread. I am not and never have participated in head in the clouds happy clappy church way of life so I'll leave you all to it.
The light at the end of this very dark tunnel is getting brighter and brighter and that's the only thing that matters.
cheerio.
blue-shifted
Banned
Totally agree. Anyone else's struggles to get the vaccine delivered is bad for us as a nation and more importantly, bad for humanity.
Since1982
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My 85 year old Dad has just booked his second jab for Good Friday at Clair Hall in HH. Brilliant news in my book!
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Daily new cases had been creeping up for a week or so, so this is good news. Hopefully the returning to schools "bump" is calming down as cases are spotted and isolated, alongside daily vaccinations putting more and more pressure on R.
Daily new cases had been creeping up for a week or so, so this is good news. Hopefully the returning to schools "bump" is calming down as cases are spotted and isolated, alongside daily vaccinations putting more and more pressure on R.
Rodney Thomas
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I don't disagree with what you are saying. Just asking you to think of others with the way in which you present it. Your initial post, taken on face value, is not good news for me or many others on NSC. Political preference should be removed from this thread (which I have noticed creeping into posts on here recently, see [MENTION=5208]drew[/MENTION] and [MENTION=30583]RossyG[/MENTION]).