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The biggest 50 clubs in England...
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Black Rod
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It never fails to amuse me how Brighton fans get so, so precious about what a "big" club we are
In the grand scheme of things, it means absolutely bugger all how "big" we are. So people think we are "bigger" than Wigan. Who gives a toss? I'd much rather have won the FA Cup and nearly a decade of top flight football than be supporting a "big" club that has so far achieved nothing in the grand scheme of things
In the grand scheme of things, it means absolutely bugger all how "big" we are. So people think we are "bigger" than Wigan. Who gives a toss? I'd much rather have won the FA Cup and nearly a decade of top flight football than be supporting a "big" club that has so far achieved nothing in the grand scheme of things
sir albion
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Supporting your football club isn't about success....It's about your roots and supporting your towns football club.
Sadly we have generations in this country who go by the image of a successful club to boost their image even though the clubs they support have nothing to do with them....jumping on the successful band wagon is just embarrassing and sums up many plastic naive football fans.
Black Rod
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You are spot on. So what does it matter how "big" that local team is then and why do so many on here cry into their cups of tea if anybody dare suggest we aren't one of the biggest clubs outside the Premier League?
Working class pride
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Who said it mattered, people are just pointing out that it the size of the fanbase that makes the size of a club, not winning trophies. I also pointed out that Gary Neville was talking utter shit about northern clubs as against southern clubs again.
Black Rod
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Read the thread. Plenty of people getting their knickers in a twist over Palace being ahead of us, Portsmouth etc etc. If it doesn't matter why get wound up about it?
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How dare you forget about the Charity Shield. Champions of England, you know.
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I stopped looking when I saw it was from the mail.
Working class pride
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No they are not, they are just pointing out that clubs like Wigan cannot be a big club just because they have won a cup. As for Gary Neville, well he clearly is a footballer as he knows nothing about the history of football clubs. He bangs on about palace being an example of a rising small southern club but forgets that they used to have a support to rival ours. He puts Bournemouth, Palace and Brighton in the same bracket. The bloke does not have a clue. Its only the last 30 years that Palace have needed top flight football for anyone to watch them. They used to, like Brighton still do, get bigger gates than northern clubs in the same and higher divisions.
Prince Monolulu
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If that's the case why you in top 50? must of been the groupon vouchers.
Working class pride
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And selling kids seasons tickets that can be used by adults for evening games.. bu still struggling to get 11000 for a well supported `Cardiff in the Championship. But hey presto, Arsenal roll into Selhurst and they find 24000. Plastic Palace fan. Whatever happened to their support, they have been better than us since the 70's but their support has got worse.
Garry Nelson's Left Foot
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That's a very poor article.
Se20
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Haven't you just launched a bring a friend for £10 scheme ? The Bloom Groupon if you like.
I always base a clubs fan base on the away attendances.
Taking just over 1000 to Wolves, when you're top of the league , isn't great.
Working class pride
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Not bad for the club in the league with the furthest to travel week in week out and 20,000 season tickets at full price is not bad for Championship football. Not something that palace got when in the Championship was is? Also add a good 1/1.5 hours plus on Brighton fans travel time as against London clubs to Wolves.Do you use the kids season tickets for evening games or is that gone now that Arsenal are rolling into town? Brighton's Wolves away is more like your Bolton away in travel time.
Se20
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Working class pride
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Keep up the good work !
Now run along and bang your drum and shout Whooa Whooa, whilst also singing at clubs "where were you when you were shit". Oh how I laughed when I heard your kids have the cheek to sing that at another club given your gates with free tickets in the Championship. How can you sing that when your club had to beg people to watch them when not playing the the top flight?
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Hampster Gull
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Keep up the good work !
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Neville fails to put the previous assumed Northern dominance into context.
It wasn't a Northern dominance, it was an industrial region dominance. It had its history in Saturday afternoon closing of factories in the second half of the nineteenth century. Football was one of the pastimes that filled the need for working class leisure at this time, but, as James Walvin points out in his book 'The People's Game,' it only applied to industrial workers, not to clerks and shopkeepers "and agricultural workers, whose working hours continued to be almost as oppressive as ever."
This meant that the football clubs in areas with industrial populations had a head start in financing their football clubs. Obviously this advantage served them well for a century or so, but in the post industrial world after Thatcher's government and globalisation destroyed the country's heavy industries, the playing field in football has begun to level, with the investments of the super rich now being a far more important factor than a club's history. As those in the South West will tell you, this can still leave more rural regions at a disadvantage, but the urban and monied South East has obvious attractions to both investors and rich players.