[NSC] The Bear Pit

[nicko31]

it's an idiotic, stupid and moronic idea. NSC is of course primarily a football discussion board but for the nearly 20 years it's been around we've discussed everything and everything has been on one single board. I get the 'Other Stuff' board to prevent Google wetting their bed but other than that, until recently, one single board. I'll even begrudgingly accept the Covid sub-forum ( no idea why though ) as it's accessible from the Main Board. I've said many times before that NSC is like a virtual pub - albeit without the drinks ( the Friday night drinkies thread excepted ). You would have to go into a separate room in the pub to discuss a different topic - so why here ?

What next on trying to move non-football threads - lets have a separate forum for all these ridiculous music threads - you know the one's like "Name your favourite band that went on stage in wellies". Or maybe we could have a "Crap non-football Sports Thread" and get rid of the golf, running and NFL threads ?

90% of thread titles make the subject matter obvious and yet you still get the morons posting in them "This isn't about football so why is it here ?" - well don't fvcking click on it and comment in it you moron.

The Bear Pit is a shit idea.

Think it will reduce traffic to NSC, but that's the decision of the website owner

 

[Guinness Boy]

it's an idiotic, stupid and moronic idea. NSC is of course primarily a football discussion board but for the nearly 20 years it's been around we've discussed everything and everything has been on one single board. I get the 'Other Stuff' board to prevent Google wetting their bed but other than that, until recently, one single board. I'll even begrudgingly accept the Covid sub-forum ( no idea why though ) as it's accessible from the Main Board. I've said many times before that NSC is like a virtual pub - albeit without the drinks ( the Friday night drinkies thread excepted ). You would have to go into a separate room in the pub to discuss a different topic - so why here ?

What next on trying to move non-football threads - lets have a separate forum for all these ridiculous music threads - you know the one's like "Name your favourite band that went on stage in wellies". Or maybe we could have a "Crap non-football Sports Thread" and get rid of the golf, running and NFL threads ?

90% of thread titles make the subject matter obvious and yet you still get the morons posting in them "This isn't about football so why is it here ?" - well don't fvcking click on it and comment in it you moron.

The Bear Pit is a shit idea.

Over 70% in favour on the poll which is more than, say, a democratic 52/48 victory for another shit idea

 

[zefarelly]

I like the idea . . . . I haven't and won't look in the bear pit, so can stick to general NSC football, music and the nicer side of life, a bit like it used to be in the good old days.

Also stops me getting drawn into pointless pissed rants with loons And posting 'massive generalisations' ;-)

 

[n1 gull]

I like the idea . . . . I haven't and won't look in the bear pit, so can stick to general NSC football, music and the nicer side of life, a bit like it used to be in the good old days.

Also stops me getting drawn into pointless pissed rants with loons And posting 'massive generalisations' ;-)

Totally agree.
I looked on that Brexit thread a few times and it was vile. I think its a good idea especially with BLM which has raised race issues. Maybe if everyone plays nice it won't be needed in the long run?

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

I'm going to bed, but it seems to be thus far a resounding 'for' in favour of the new modus operandi.

But can he play left back?

 

[Frutos]

Think it will reduce traffic to NSC, but that's the decision of the website owner

What makes you think that?

 

[nicko31]

What makes you think that?

Rightly or wrongly controversy drives clicks, talk to the Editor of the Daily Mail. Maybe 6m clicks on the Brexit thread said enough is enough and NSC is at the end of the day an Albion forum

 

[jamie (not that one)]

I think it's a great move. While I understand traditionally if things aren't on the main board they tend to die, if the content away from the main board is stronger (the bear pit fits the bill) then sub-boards will flourish.

Keep it going! The main board has been great recently.

 

[amexer]

Pubs will be open soon. Much less abuse dished out there when discussing politics

 

[El Presidente]

Rightly or wrongly controversy drives clicks, talk to the Editor of the Daily Mail. Maybe 6m clicks on the Brexit thread said enough is enough and NSC is at the end of the day an Albion forum

People can still go there if they want to listen to threads which are broken records.

 

[Frutos]

Rightly or wrongly controversy drives clicks, talk to the Editor of the Daily Mail. Maybe 6m clicks on the Brexit thread said enough is enough and NSC is at the end of the day an Albion forum

The Brexit thread is still available for anyone to view, click and post on should they wish to.

Same goes for all the other Bear Pit threads.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Rightly or wrongly controversy drives clicks, talk to the Editor of the Daily Mail. Maybe 6m clicks on the Brexit thread said enough is enough and NSC is at the end of the day an Albion forum

But NSC was turning into a kind of Daily Mail/Daily Mirror hybrid. That’s the point.
The quality of political debate in here is abysmal. In the main it is childish point scoring and abuse of those with different opinions. There are even examples of both on this and the other bear pit threads of the last few days.
Until and unless users learn to respect other people’s opinions the bear pit is an excellent idea.

 

[Guinness Boy]

But NSC was turning into a kind of Daily Mail/Daily Mirror hybrid. That’s the point.
The quality of political debate in here is abysmal. In the main it is childish point scoring and abuse of those with different opinions. There are even examples of both on this and the other bear pit threads of the last few days.
Until and unless users learn to respect other people’s opinions the bear pit is an excellent idea.

That's modern politics though. For balance, to take examples at each end of the spectrum, look at Trump and Corbyn. The former doesn't debate at all. He harangues, shouts, proclaims via Twitter, lies and doubles down, picking up enemies as he goes. Corbyn didn't even respect the opinions of people in his own party.

When those are your "leaders" it is little wonder that the followers copy.

 

[nicko31]

But NSC was turning into a kind of Daily Mail/Daily Mirror hybrid. That’s the point.
The quality of political debate in here is abysmal. In the main it is childish point scoring and abuse of those with different opinions. There are even examples of both on this and the other bear pit threads of the last few days.
Until and unless users learn to respect other people’s opinions the bear pit is an excellent idea.

In all fairness the level of often far better than a British red top newspaper, NSC is better than that. The problem arises when posters resort to personal insults, can't be done with that

 

[Lever]

Over 70% in favour on the poll which is more than, say, a democratic 52/48 victory for another shit idea

Agree!

 

[sparkie]

Think it will reduce traffic to NSC, but that's the decision of the website owner

Is the aim of NSC to have the highest website traffic possible ?

Or is its core aim to be an internet place BHAFC fans ?

 

[BBassic]

I touched on this in a thread yesterday in that I was initially against it but have come around to the idea. My reason for being against it initially was, as others have said, it can run the risk of squashing discussion which is pretty bad in my eyes. Things like racism, politics, society, humanity, history etc etc all need to be discussed.

However the threads that end up in the Bear Pit aren't discussions. They may start out that way but within a page or three they turn into the same handful of people from the various degrees of the opinion spectrum just shouting at each other.

So I'm for it. With any luck we'll be able to have some actual discussion and debate in threads now. And if they too end up degenerating into bile then off to the Pit with them.

If nothing else we still have the football to yell at each other over.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

That's modern politics though. For balance, to take examples at each end of the spectrum, look at Trump and Corbyn. The former doesn't debate at all. He harangues, shouts, proclaims via Twitter, lies and doubles down, picking up enemies as he goes. Corbyn didn't even respect the opinions of people in his own party.

When those are your "leaders" it is little wonder that the followers copy.

I don’t disagree. We are where we are though and that includes NSC. I know the football is back and that was always likely to increase the Albion content but I just think that non political threads will get the chance to breathe on the main board without being subsumed by angry, abusive politicos.

 

[WATFORD zero]

After 4 years on the main board, I quite enjoyed the history of people's ever changing views and opinions on the Brexit thread (in case anybody hadn't noticed), but given the amount of race fishing threads which were constantly being posted on the Main Board, then I think the Bear Pit was the way to go, even if it meant sacrificing the Brexit thread

Although, as pointed out above, the Brexit thread is still there if anyone wants to go over to the Bear pit and highlight some benefits
https://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?343854-The-Brexit-Thread

And besides, Football's back

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I like it how quite a few ‘lefties’ or anti-racists, such as yourself, are loving the new NSC with the sidelined Bear Pit.

Contrary to what your Alt Right detractors might say, imho you didn‘t post in those threads to grandstand, or to post relentless diatribe against all things Tory. You posted to challenge racism, antisemitism or homophobia, along with your general musings from 8 Acacia Drive, Faversham (PPF immediately looks it up on google maps ).

Yep. I have no interest in starting political debates (although I may well have done) but, to paraphrase Edmund Burke, evil triumps when the safe, comfy and unthreatened say nothing. All the best from Acacia Drive