Terrorists, would you condone torture to save lives ?

[bhaexpress]

Sense at last, why lower ourselves to their level?

Simple, it's the law they understand. Any sense of decency goes when you see your first dismembered limb. These people have no fear of death and cannot be reasoned with. Still if you're prefer to be blown up that's your choice. I like many others here often work in London and face a better chance than some of being killed or maimed for the terrible crime of going to work.

 

[dougdeep]

Still if you're prefer

What?

 

[bhaexpress]

What?

Ahhh bit too much of a conundrum is it Doug ? Seems to me you would be okay with terrorists staying schtum whilst innocent people get killed. Think you might see it a bit differently if you or one of yours was a victim.

 

[British Bulldog]

Alright then. Put them in jail, with a bunch of really nasty racist sorts - whatever happens, happens.

I'd like to volunteer to be one of those nasty racist sort in jail with them

 

[dougdeep]

Ahhh bit too much of a conundrum is it Doug ? Seems to me you would be okay with terrorists staying schtum whilst innocent people get killed. Think you might see it a bit differently if you or one of yours was a victim.

What is your first language?

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Alright then. Put them in jail, with a bunch of really nasty racist sorts - whatever happens, happens.

Yup, sounds about right. Wouldn't even need 'really nasty racist sorts'. Just a random selection of decent human beings who happen to find themselves in jail. Decent people like the ones who got a few hefty kicks in on the smouldering terrorist in Glasgow yesterday. Boy got off lightly IMHO

 

[Yorkie]

Ahhh bit too much of a conundrum is it Doug ? Seems to me you would be okay with terrorists staying schtum whilst innocent people get killed. Think you might see it a bit differently if you or one of yours was a victim.

I think he was referring to your use of English grammar in your post.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

No it should not.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

Making a case for torture is making a case for encouraging even more terrorism.

Are you people MAD ?

 

[dougdeep]

Making a case for torture is making a case for encouraging even more terrorism.

Are you people MAD ?

Yes, yes they are!

 

[tedebear]

Nope can't condone torture or anything else we as a society have deemed illegal...We as a state cannot make torture illegal, but turn around and say its OK in special circumstances.

I however am all for them being locked up in a box, with a bed, a loo and three plain meals a day. No bloody tv's, newspapers, or home comforts that prisoners seem to get these days!!

 

[Djmiles]

Making a case for torture is making a case for encouraging even more terrorism.

Are you people MAD ?

I doubt just locking them up will do the trick, we'll get the usual "Lets bomb something else to get our mates out of prison" crap going on.

If we at least get some answers out of them, we can try and get to the source of the terrorism.

 

[bhaexpress]

Making a case for torture is making a case for encouraging even more terrorism.

Are you people MAD ?

Yes very angry indeed. I can easily condone whatever it takes against those who seek to attack me indiscriminately. Better to be alive than a dead or maimed bleeding heart liberal.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Beggars belief. We should compromise our ethics and basis of society for the sake of a few fanatics and what they may or may not tell us? How could we condemn the actions of the captives who have taken Allan Johnston or Terry Waite et al, when we are doing a similar thing.

The whole ideal of Camp X-Ray scares me and if we reverted to torture then I would lose any feelings I had for Britain. I would be on the next plane out of the country.

 

[Djmiles]

I think people seem to be focusing purely on physical tortue when making their points. Beating someone until they give you the answer is just wrong, but there must be some way to tortue them without physically harming them.

Locking them up will do sod all IMO.

 

[bhaexpress]

Beggars belief. We should compromise our ethics and basis of society for the sake of a few fanatics and what they may or may not tell us? How could we condemn the actions of the captives who have taken Allan Johnston or Terry Waite et al, when we are doing a similar thing.

The whole ideal of Camp X-Ray scares me and if we reverted to torture then I would lose any feelings I had for Britain. I would be on the next plane out of the country.

That's rather the point though isn't it ? We're being terrorized so what are we supposed to do ? It's clear that people who don't share our moral scruples ride roughshod over our human rights every time they plant a bomb. What's the point of respecting theirs ? If information that could save lives could be extracted from somebody who thinks that bombing innocent civilians is okay can be achieved by fair means or foul then that's the way it should be.

They're just laughing at us because we try to be 'better' than them.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Why do you ask ? It's not supposed to be. Personally I have no sympathy at all for somebody who comes to my country with the express wish to cause death, mutilation and disruption. They don't give a damn about who gets hurt (I mean they're prepared to die anyway) so why should we give a toss about their 'Civil Liberties' ?

Maybe not a joke thread, but an unsophisticated simpleton's thread.

 

[sumo]

I think people seem to be focusing purely on physical tortue when making their points. Beating someone until they give you the answer is just wrong, but there must be some way to tortue them without physically harming them.

Locking them up will do sod all IMO.

I dont think torture is the answer, we need to bring back the death penalty for convicted terrorists, it should be the most brutal death imaginable maybe along the lines of everybody in the country gets togive them a kick or a punch

 

[dougdeep]

I dont think torture is the answer, we need to bring back the death penalty for convicted terrorists, it should be the most brutal death imaginable maybe along the lines of everybody in the country gets togive them a kick or a punch

Isn't treason still a hanging offence?

 

[Yorkie]

Isn't treason still a hanging offence?

No.

Does anyone know that torture would actually save lives? These martyrs have been caught before they died. What makes anyone think that torture is going to make them talk? They want to die.