Swine Flu - Isn't it getting obvious that those stupid socialists..

[brightonbluenose]

That doesn't make him a democrat.

Democracy respects the right of every individual to participate in the political process. Fascism doesn't. It demands a strong state above everything else.

As Mussolini said ... “The keystone of the Fascist doctrine is its conception of the State, of its essence, its functions, and its aims. For Fascism the State is absolute. Individuals and groups are relative.”

Yeah - but the point is that anti-democratic forces can gain power by democratic means!

 

[looney]

As I made clear ... In the context of UK labour history, the MINIMUM requirement for this government to be described as "socialist" would be that it embraced the aims adopted by the Labour Party in 1918 which were abandoned by the Party in 1995.

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OK agree by your definition you are right. Still there are a lot of people, even in the UK, that beleive socialism is more than state ownership of industries, of which in number of people employed and productivity as a part of GDP have been in decline, GLOBALLY, for over 40 years.

Manufacturing employment peaked in 1966 for example. Its not a question of wanting to change labour had to change.

 

[looney]

Yeah - but the point is that anti-democratic forces can gain power by democratic means!

And they tend not to advertise their hostility to Democracy, usually covering it with "liberalism", a good example is the BNP.