Marshy said:
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Sven you're pathetic. f*** off now.
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(Unless you are a boy scout of course )Shitty as it was last night I'm not too bothered about the result as we do not take friendlies seriously. Whether it's a mindset, as Ray Wilkins said last night I don't know but I do think that the club managers of the players have some influence on it.
If it wasn't for that rule that stops them playing at the weekend (or did I make that up?) I think you'd find a few pulling out as they don't want their players getting injured in a nothing game. The next best thing?, take it easy and try not to get injured.
If it wasn't for that rule that stops them playing at the weekend (or did I make that up?) I think you'd find a few pulling out as they don't want their players getting injured in a nothing game. The next best thing?, take it easy and try not to get injured.
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Sorry but someone has to say it -
IT. WAS. A. f***ing. FRIENDLY.
And if David James wasn't in goal we probably wouldn't even have lost.
IT. WAS. A. f***ing. FRIENDLY.
And if David James wasn't in goal we probably wouldn't even have lost.
Brighton Breezy
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It was a friendly. That said it was also embarrassing BUT the blame must lay on the players who mostly played like they couldnt be arsed with it.
Take a f***ing CHILLPILL and watch us STUFF the taffs.
Take a f***ing CHILLPILL and watch us STUFF the taffs.
Q: Will the XI who conceded 4 goals against the Danes start against Wales?
A: No, so get over it. When England last played Denmark in a match that matters we tonked them 3-0 and EVEN Emile Heskey looked useful.
A: No, so get over it. When England last played Denmark in a match that matters we tonked them 3-0 and EVEN Emile Heskey looked useful.
SK1NT
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the talent he has at his disposal is arguably better than any previous England manager. He is piss poor. Even when we do win its by the odd goal and hardly looks convincing. 
Uncle Buck
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El Presidente said:
Have no idea what happened in the second half of the game. Just remember the huge conga and chant of lets go Oriental. Happy days. Topped off by the fact I was meant to be back at work on the Monday and phoned my boss on the Monday to say I might be a tad late as I was in Osaka!!!
elbowpatches
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Give him until after the world cup, a few poor performances and he'll be gone. It is too close to having a new manager, just wouldn't work. But...if he were to lead the team to success I'm sure we'll all be singing his praises.
I didn't watch the game, couldn't find anywhere in Stockholm to show it, but the score and reports I have read seem quite damning. Could we not attribute some of the blame on the players perhaps. Just a thought.
I didn't watch the game, couldn't find anywhere in Stockholm to show it, but the score and reports I have read seem quite damning. Could we not attribute some of the blame on the players perhaps. Just a thought.
Uncle Buck
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RB said:
Nope simply because there are 2 or 3 people on here that just do not like Sven, so he gets the blame.
Jam The Man
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Sept 2001 - Germany 1-5 England in QUALIFIER...NOT FRIENDLY!!!
July 2002 - Germany reach World Cup Final - yaeh they lost, but still got there...
Relax! Everything will be alright...
July 2002 - Germany reach World Cup Final - yaeh they lost, but still got there...
Relax! Everything will be alright...
David James has admitted that he failed to prepare properly for his second-half outing against Denmark.
The Manchester City keeper conceded all four goals in England's 4-1 humbling in Copenhagen on Wednesday, although he was not at fault for all of them.
James, 35, said: "Because I knew I wasn't going to start I did not do my starting preparations - but you should always prepare to play.
"I did not adhere to that and everyone saw the results."
James did nothing to dispel the 'calamity James' tag that has haunted him, with a rash error of judgement for Denmark's first goal.
It triggered a spell of three goals in seven minutes that left England reeling.
When the fourth goal went in, James was busy gobbling Robbie Williams by the corner flag and became the keeper at the centre of England's biggest defeat in 25 years.
A contrite James added: "The whole thing about preparation is that you could go on in the first minute.
"It is a lesson I try to teach youngsters and it is one I should follow through myself.
"Maybe I can get away with this one because it is a friendly and has no bearing on qualification.
"But I am representing England and I should have paid more attention. There were things I did that I will make totally sure I never do again."
James has lost his place as England's number one to Tottenham's Paul Robinson, largely on the back of a blunder nearly a year ago that allowed Austria to salvage a draw from the opening World Cup qualifier.
He will now find Norwich keeper Robert Green breathing down his neck for the deputy's spot.
The Manchester City keeper conceded all four goals in England's 4-1 humbling in Copenhagen on Wednesday, although he was not at fault for all of them.
James, 35, said: "Because I knew I wasn't going to start I did not do my starting preparations - but you should always prepare to play.
"I did not adhere to that and everyone saw the results."
James did nothing to dispel the 'calamity James' tag that has haunted him, with a rash error of judgement for Denmark's first goal.
It triggered a spell of three goals in seven minutes that left England reeling.
When the fourth goal went in, James was busy gobbling Robbie Williams by the corner flag and became the keeper at the centre of England's biggest defeat in 25 years.
A contrite James added: "The whole thing about preparation is that you could go on in the first minute.
"It is a lesson I try to teach youngsters and it is one I should follow through myself.
"Maybe I can get away with this one because it is a friendly and has no bearing on qualification.
"But I am representing England and I should have paid more attention. There were things I did that I will make totally sure I never do again."
James has lost his place as England's number one to Tottenham's Paul Robinson, largely on the back of a blunder nearly a year ago that allowed Austria to salvage a draw from the opening World Cup qualifier.
He will now find Norwich keeper Robert Green breathing down his neck for the deputy's spot.
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Just how long can a manager live on one result ?Jam The Man said:
S'alright though. Its only a friendly. Everything will be fine and dandy when it matters eh, just like it always is. I mean, we always play brilliantly in tournaments don't we, specially those second halfs after Svens had them in the dressing room. Wow, what a motivator.
Germany next year - just can't WAIT for those pens.
His record in proper competition stands up. I know you don't like it much, but that is the truth of the matter. In the past 30 years, only Bobby Robson (who was absolute TOILET until he stumbled across Beardsley/Lineker up front) can rival Sven as a success at national level for the England team.Easy 10 said:
Any anyway, who can we replace Sven with? Allardyce? You're having a f***ing LAUGH. What has he done? EVER? Won promotion? Wow, what a legend.
Then there's McClaren. He's won a league cup but his team has never really excelled given his playing budget.
The fact is that the silent majority of England fans might be unhappy to lose friendlies and fail to understand the need to play about 46 players in one match - but as long as we are competitive in the big matches, most of us don't give a TOSS. Personally don't watch friendlies anymore. They're boring and TOTALLY unrepresentative of player/managerial weaknesses. The only exception to my indifference to friendlies is if we play Australia.
The most upsetting thing of the trip was paying £17 for 3 1/2 pints!
It was only a friendly - i didnt see many people moaning a few weeks ago when we were winning the IMPORTANT qualifiers. Anyway one Sven is replaced a lot of teh wan*ers on here will be calling for his resignation the moment England dare not win a match, as of course we have a devine right to win every game.
It wasnt good last night, hopefully we have seen the end of Calamity Jane, and Glen Johnson showed he isnt ready for international football yet! Still it was a cracking atmosphere last night, the Danes know how to make a load of noise.
Mr Blobby
Brighton & England
Ps the little mermaid - what is all the fuss about
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It was only a friendly - i didnt see many people moaning a few weeks ago when we were winning the IMPORTANT qualifiers. Anyway one Sven is replaced a lot of teh wan*ers on here will be calling for his resignation the moment England dare not win a match, as of course we have a devine right to win every game.
It wasnt good last night, hopefully we have seen the end of Calamity Jane, and Glen Johnson showed he isnt ready for international football yet! Still it was a cracking atmosphere last night, the Danes know how to make a load of noise.
Mr Blobby
Brighton & England
Ps the little mermaid - what is all the fuss about
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Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Sven is the luckiest manager on earth to have the amount of talent at his disposal that he has. He can certainly get us through qualifying groups where all we have to beat is 2nd rate nations - given the players we have, that is the MINIMUM we should expect. But boy oh boy, do we ever get found out when we play one of the Big Boys. The fact is that he consistantly fails on the big occasions. He freezes. He gets out-thought and out-manouvered. He cannot organise, galvanise, motivate, think on his feet, or react. Thatis a crippling deficiency in the man, and it is holding us back.Simster said:
So the measure of a manager is purely pots in the cabinet now, is it ? We all know that the Premiership is a closed shop as far as who can win it nowadays. Does Allardyce really have to win the thing with Bolton before you acknowledge that he's actually a pretty decent coach who does superbly well with the resources available to him ?
Agreed. Not interested in McLaren.
Thats my whole point - the bigger the match, the less competative we are. We get found out. We're great at qualifying, fine at rolling over a few minnows. But put us in front of a Sweden, or a Portugal, or an Italy, or a France, or anyone half decent, and we all know what happens. We might blunder our way to the odd result, but more often than not, we'll come unstuck - and I'm sorry, but thats Svens fault, cos we have the players to do so much better.
Uncle Buck
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Easy 10 said:
But then under him we have beaten Germany, Argentina, Turkey, Denmark in games that matter. All currently or at the time, reasonably ranked nations.
Ex Shelton Seagull
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Wasn't Graham Taylor a pretty decent coach who did superbly with the resources available to him?
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
The Argentina result was a bit of a fluke - we took a fearful battering in that match during the 2nd half in particular, but yes, thats one of the handful of scalps we can claim under Sven. And we all know about the 5-1, he's lived on that result ever since. I'd expect us to beat the likes of Turkey and Denmark to behonest - they're competent but moderate opposition. As you say yourself, they're "reasonably ranked" opposition.Uncle Buck said:
Heartbreaking as it is, I can take a tournament exit when we go out fighting (in a footballing sense of course). If we've been involved in an epic match, given everything, and just come up short, then I can accept that. Argentina in 98, and Germany in 90 and 96 spring to mind. Crushingly disappointing, but a heroic effort all the same. Now look at the exits under Sven. Brazil in 2002 was a meek surrender to ten men who were there for the taking. Portugal last year, I don't care how many hard luck stories people come up with over the goal that was disallowed, the fact remains that (once again) after taking an early lead, we bent over a barrel with out shorts around our ankles, and let the Portguese f*** us six ways from Sunday - we were so limp it was embarrassing, and if Portugal had a decent finisher, they'd have been out of sight within an hour.
Unfortunately, it seems we need a third example, in Germany next year, before some people will finally wake up to the fact that we are doomed to chronic underachievement under this manager. He just doesn't have what it takes.
Mr Blobby said:
the little mermaid - what is all the fuss about
She swallows........if you ask her nicely enough
