Norman Potting
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In view of the strength of feeling expressed on this thread I now confirm that under no circumstances (the main ones being I don't have a bike nor can I ride one) will I cycle to Ditchling Beacon.
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Stop Cycling up Ditchling Beacon!!!!
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You can call it Road Tax if you want, although you have just announced to everyone that you pay an annual duty, and you don't know what it is you're paying for.
rouseytastic
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Do bicycles have indicators
Do some cyclists not wear correct safety wear?? All these little things are hazardous as are some drivers. In my 'opinion' they should be tested like drivers are to ensure they can ride appropriately and have some sort of insurance. Correct me if i am wrong and they already have thus in place. If a cyclist accidently hits a pot hole does that entitle him to take his bike to the council and get a new one?? This doesnt include you as you obviously are an a class cyclist!!
"Correct safety gear"? Please tell me, what is the 'correct safety gear' required for going to the shop? I don't wear 'the correct safety gear' for driving, or as a pedestrian. How is this "as hazardous as some drivers"? No cyclist has EVER killed someone in a car because of their riding - drivers kill other drivers pretty much daily.
How does insurance affect the pot-hole case? Anyone can put a claim in to the council for damage caused through poor road maintenance - drivers do it a lot. It isn't a claim on the vehicle's cover.
rogersix
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how do you know all this stuff?
Wrong-Direction
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Because I'm a brain box[emoji165]
rogersix
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cos your brain is in a box?
Shropshire Seagull
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How about abolishing the VED and getting the funding from an increase in fuel?
Probably been discussed before but can't be arsed to search.
Downside, petrol mowers will be permitted to use the roads too [as they're paid VED via fuel surcharge].
Several have also stated that they already pay a form of "road tax" on another vehicle so their bicycle is exempt - what about all them kids on bikes, what tax do they pay, eh?
Probably been discussed before but can't be arsed to search.
Downside, petrol mowers will be permitted to use the roads too [as they're paid VED via fuel surcharge].
Several have also stated that they already pay a form of "road tax" on another vehicle so their bicycle is exempt - what about all them kids on bikes, what tax do they pay, eh?
I'd abolish VED entirely and add it to fuel. That way the more you drive the more you pay. The less efficiently you drive the more you pay. The less efficient your vehicle the more you pay. Bearing in mind that a large proportion of car journeys are less than 5 miles there's really no reason to drive that much in urban areas anyway.
Wrong-Direction
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What if your job requires you to drive? Not fair
rogersix
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costs, including transport, get incorporated into your price. you should take your brain out of that box
Bold Seagull
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Brilliant. So, the argument is that cyclists shouldn't use the roads because they don't pay 'road tax'. However a system in place, by the very same logic, to charge you proportionately for your use on the road is not fair!?
How is it fair that Mrs Higgins in the local village doing 1000 miles per year only using her local roads to get about pays the same road tax as Mr Bigend, who has the same car and does 20,000 miles per year using a variety of Motorways, A roads etc. all round the country?
If V.E.D, as you say is really paying for the roads, how on earth is that scenario of road usage fair!?
So pleased you came back with that.
Businesses would be able to claim tax back, as they already do with VAT. It's far more fair than the current system where people with gas-guzzlers pollute so much that they're actually killing people, but hardly paying anything for the privilege.
Get a more efficient vehicle and drive it more efficiently. Maybe a hybrid or electric vehicle if it's really necessary to drive. Or organise your journeys better to reduce travelling distances.
Wrong-Direction
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Not as easy as just buying a new car, some people are poor, people that don't work in offices.
Wrong-Direction
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Motorists pay enough out on driving without charging us more!
Wrong-Direction
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I actually know Mr Bigend and he does not drive 20,000 miles per year so please don't exaggerate like that.
No-one is suggesting charging more, it would just be distributed fairly. Mrs Higgins may only pay £10 a year tax, whilst Mr Bigend pays £200.
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rogersix
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get a job in an office